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50 minutes ago, Ace Boone coon said:

I would say it would depends on the wounds. If it has a couple puncture wounds then of say you really don't have to. But it's always safe to. Now if your dog put in HARD WORK and got some deep wounds then yes give them a shot of penicillin and manybe a shot of azium. 1 shot of penicillin is not enough to do any harm to the dog's in anyway. Now if you were gonna repeatedly keep giving them the shot then yes it could hurt them. But in most cases usually 1 shot is good enough. Not enough to do damage to the kidney. Not even close unless your dogs kidney is bad to begin with. And just because you think you cleaned said wound doesn't necessarily mean you cleaned it good enough. It doesn't take very much to cause an Infection, so yeah better safe then sorry. 

If you're going to start using Dex(Azium)on a dog thats put in a long hard shift then you seriously need to start thinking about adding fluids via i.v as you will being drying out a dog even more that could already be seriously dehydrated.

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Theres no hard and fast rule u should treat acording to injury if it is serious i always jab to prevent infection as well as clean and metacam do this as soon as dog has been dug obviously under vets guidance.but i prefer dog that has a bit of sense so does not need alot of treatment but even the sensible ones get knocked about depends on the animal infront of them

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1 hour ago, downsouth said:

If you're going to start using Dex(Azium)on a dog thats put in a long hard shift then you seriously need to start thinking about adding fluids via i.v as you will being drying out a dog even more that could already be seriously dehydrated.

I agree with you 100% on that! Can def dehydrate the dog and you should bag it, no doubt. 

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Dex can put blood sugars through the roof and lead to fluid retention too as well as lower immune system very quickly  

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5 hours ago, dillydog said:

Why would you let any infection take a foothold  ?

Surely it's better to save any infection from ever taking place ?

My vet once told me that even under surgical conditions flesh just sometimes wants to die back. I've beat myself up plenty enough times over the infections I've personally seen to know better mate, and that's with veterinary care.

Save an infection from taking place by cleaning, antibiotics are only for use when infection is there and won’t shift. No poodles here, had hard dogs, as hard as any. Antibiotics aren’t a painkiller, and if you clean the wound and rinsed of infection they’re of no use are they. 

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I think some lads assume that antibiotics aid in recovery time of a wound. If there’s no infection present they’re not doing anything but harm. And I’d be the first to say, if I see infection I will get the dogs antibiotics but I’d rather prevent with cleaning than rely on them.

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1 hour ago, rob284 said:

Save an infection from taking place by cleaning, antibiotics are only for use when infection is there and won’t shift. No poodles here, had hard dogs, as hard as any. Antibiotics aren’t a painkiller, and if you clean the wound and rinsed of infection they’re of no use are they. 

Unless you've got a God like touch mate any infection will have started once teeth meet flesh, any open wounds will have soil and bacteria in them, no amount of cleaning will stop what's coming.  For obvious reasons I won't go into it but we'll have to agree to disagree. 

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Depends on the fox you’re digging to in many cases, Ive seen dogs do a few hards hours and be relatively easy to look after and then others have a quick dig and the wounds are going bad the next day. Each dog and time to ground is different.

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2 hours ago, dillydog said:

Unless you've got a God like touch mate any infection will have started once teeth meet flesh, any open wounds will have soil and bacteria in them, no amount of cleaning will stop what's coming.  For obvious reasons I won't go into it but we'll have to agree to disagree. 

Exactly, infection starts fairly quick and is normally instant. Some great men able to clean every grain of sand or dirt out of wounds. 

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5 hours ago, Wideboy said:

Exactly, infection starts fairly quick and is normally instant. Some great men able to clean every grain of sand or dirt out of wounds. 

Instant 😂 nothing great about it, Maybe that’s where your coming unstuck, hence relying on antibiotics. I wouldn’t leave anything in a wound after a dig, that’s why they don’t get infected. One day they may do and I’ll be the first to use them, but I’d never use them as a preventative measure because that is misusing them, eventually rendering them useless.

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2 hours ago, rob284 said:

Instant 😂 nothing great about it, Maybe that’s where your coming unstuck, hence relying on antibiotics. I wouldn’t leave anything in a wound after a dig, that’s why they don’t get infected. One day they may do and I’ll be the first to use them, but I’d never use them as a preventative measure because that is misusing them, eventually rendering them useless.

Infection is instant, you might only see the signs a few days later. I don’t use antibiotics freely either. 

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There is a big difference in a nip on the nose and a good hiding, easy clean up the odd bite,different when it's a lot more serious, I always have the dogs at heart and if I think they need more than a clean up then they get it. When a terrier has been to ground for a long period of time well infection has already got in and all the cleaning in the world won't stop it,it has to be stopped from the inside out, but everyone to their own, I'm not going to tell anyone how to do things. 

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I've seen some dirty feckers it's like they love punishment. The fool hardy feckers would want a jab before going into the hole. 😁 

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On 04/01/2020 at 17:19, Daniel cain said:

Dry cow cream........ Not used a needle in almost 10 yrs👍

Can that be bought without a prescription pal, never heard of it

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2 minutes ago, peterhunter86 said:

Can that be bought without a prescription pal, never heard of it

I get mine from a dairy farmer Pete,👍

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