gnipper 6,732 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Something I've been pondering about whilst bored at work, is there many failures in none hunting working dogs? It's not something you ever really hear of, labs that won't retrieve or collies that won't herd? We all know of terriers that won't go to ground or lurchers that can't catch their intended quarry you just never hear of others. Do all Newfoundlands save people from water etc? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,681 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 They get bred from , look at the state of the malamutes husky’s etc you see mate how many of them could haul a sled? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 There are lots of different standards. Same with any type of work. Not many folks will outright say their dog is a failure, but a honest handler will tell you the dogs failings. It really depends on what a typical handler for that breed/type wants from their dog doesn't it, or for that matter what really they'll accept. There are shit loads of gundog owners that wouldn't stand a chance in a trial, me included. Dare say the same applies to herding dogs and security dogs etc etc. For instance. If a lab doesn't retrieve most would consider that a total failure. But then again if that dog is steady as f**k and can work birds out of cover real business like and not lose it's head then many folks would find that animal a worthy worker. At least the obsession with FTch breeding keeps the blood somewhat tested. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 30,944 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 The pet market is the market for all failed dogs, from undershot show stock to failed workers, why else would anyone ever think of breeding a spaniel or lab with a poodle, it's not as good as any of the parents if the parents were doing what they were bred for but they are not, a failed lab and a dogs home poodle brings you a grand a pup and no one will ever ask if the parents were any good, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 12,008 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Plenty of gun shy retrievers around , one time they would been shot , but they started to get sold for a token summ, then bred from next thing you know its common, i got a labradoodle here won’t retrieve and is scared of loud noises and barely likes getting wet but on paper 3/4 poodle 1/4 lab should been a water bird retrieving machine . 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 8,265 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Got a French bulldog here that won't bait a bull now matter how hard I try to make it 2 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 8,265 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Everybody knows the French are cowardly pal, stop wasting ye time ? Do you reckon that's why it's a right smelly ignorant c**t too? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 12,008 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Everybody knows the French are cowardly pal, stop wasting ye time ? I’m inclined to agree with ya , fecking poodles ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 30,944 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 3 hours ago, downsouth said: Got a French bulldog here that won't bait a bull now matter how hard I try to make it Maybe you need a French bull, could be a language thing, he,s offering the bull out in French and the bull don't no what he,s on about, it's a simple mistake to make mate ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 I thought this topic was going to be about all the dole scroungers we're supporting! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 minute ago, stumfelter said: I thought this topic was going to be about all the dole scroungers we're supporting! I thought someone had set up a trail cam in my yard! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Leemooch 160 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 why do working dog men have dogs like French bulldogs i wonder ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 30,944 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, Peter Leemooch said: why do working dog men have dogs like French bulldogs i wonder ? Probably because they have partners and children that just want a pet to walk round the park, why do some people come on here to try and provoke arguments and piss people off I wonder ? 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Leemooch 160 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 but of all the breeds come on mate dont get all defensive what’s her name fluffy.how much you made from her this year ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
samurai 178 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 59 minutes ago, Greyman said: Probably because they have partners and children that just want a pet to walk round the park, why do some people come on here to try and provoke arguments and piss people off I wonder ? Exactly I’ve had working dogs 45+ years but always been pets in the house for wife and kids, it’s been chihuahuas and Italian greyhound for the last 20 odd years so what’s the problem with working men having other breeds of dogs.… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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