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I've never found it that confusing really....... Yes some women like to fcuk about & maybe I've give up a little too easily on occasion, but I'd much rather that, than degrading myself chasing a w

Fully sympathise with weinstein?..haha We know fcuk all about the reality of it really. You think every women that he come into contact with him expected to give the guy head for a part? Going to dinn

I find the modern world very confusing. I know that what Weinstein did was pervy, exploitative and sleazy. I know when Trump brags about 'grabbing women by the pussy' that's has you reaching for the v

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Its a bit of a shame this lost its way. I think the OP has a very good point it is impossible to know a womans mind as they themselves often dont know what they want.

Often they will allude to something and expect a man to grab it with both hands, often to a bloke this is a confusing signal - we have all had the experience.

There isnt a single man on this earth who can fully understand women since they range from submissive to dictatorial and all shades in between. Its a lot worse now as they expect to be 'in control' as feminism is guiding them. All generalisaion are untrue of course but the phrase 'why cant a woman be more like a man' didnt refer to physical appearance.

i know one thing mate , thats being married 30 years , and all the other women i had was fair few , done me fair share of shagging before i got married. All of them tell lies deff , my wife now will say one thing to my son, but different thing to me , i (never deep down trust any woman) ok i know blokes can tell fibs , but with women they do i to get there own way, and really if you look at the big picture with them there are very selfish people . :yes::yes:

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I was once out with my mate when I lost him in the club , as I came up the stairs two lads with two brunettes held the door open ,

 

One of the brunettes caught my eye and I grabbed her and took her to the bar,

 

I pushed her on the couch and apparently said

 

"You look like Karen from shameless, give me your number and I'll take you out this week!"

 

That was Saturday, I took her out on Wednesday , and we've been married for 5 years now

 

Moral of the story, if you like it, grab it!!!!

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I was once out with my mate when I lost him in the club , as I came up the stairs two lads with two brunettes held the door open ,

One of the brunettes caught my eye and I grabbed her and took her to the bar,

I pushed her on the couch and apparently said

"You look like Karen from shameless, give me your number and I'll take you out this week!"

That was Saturday, I took her out on Wednesday , and we've been married for 5 years now

Moral of the story, if you like it, grab it!!!!

 

 

 

I'd tear the hole out of that Karen one.

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Never mind condoms, every single bloke in the world needs to be carrying a legal disclaimer and consent form to be kept on record forever.

Make sure you get it signed before you undo a single shirt button or get within touching distance !

99% of blokes, if innocent won't experienced any of this. I don't know anyone who has & I know some total male slags! Haha.....

To make life easy I'll tell you what, move over I'm getting on the bandwagon, he is guilty......guilty as f***ing sin.......Angelina Jolie said so and that has to make it true.

Burn him !

I'll tell you what I'll assume he's innocent & every young women he ever met is a whore that doesn't deserve any better!

No need for all that......just assume innocent until proven guilty ;)

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I'll tell you who else.......every member of the "Carry On" films and the bloke that invented the seaside postcard.......hangings too f***ing good for them!

Benny Hill......should be dug up and burnt !

The bloke who invented Miss World........scum !

Salsa dancing.......my arse, just an excuse for molestation the dirty fuckers and don't even get me started on the Tango !

Chiropractors.......pure f***ing filth !

People who ogle Lara Croft........sick fuckers, don't they know it's all about the plot !

James Bond films.........it's practically pornagraphic, that Cubby Broccli should be in parkhurst !

What has any of that got to do with sexual harassment? Why are you even confusing these things?

I've been to plenty of lap dancing clubs. I've paid my money & they have performed. Because those women have acted in such a way does that give me licence to overstep the mark? Am I entitled & are they to blame for my behaviour?

So you did no better than Weinstein then?.......you exploited women who were willing to be exploited for your own gratification.......the fact you never laid hands to them is completely irrelevant !

Many of those girls are vulnerable in some way and exploited and you have fuelled that exploitation and indeed been part of it in some small way.

Or is it only blokes worth 10 million dollars or where actual touching takes place that exploit women for reward?.........is there degrees of grubbiness ?..........

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I was once out with my mate when I lost him in the club , as I came up the stairs two lads with two brunettes held the door open ,

One of the brunettes caught my eye and I grabbed her and took her to the bar,

I pushed her on the couch and apparently said

"You look like Karen from shameless, give me your number and I'll take you out this week!"

That was Saturday, I took her out on Wednesday , and we've been married for 5 years now

Moral of the story, if you like it, grab it!!!!

Craaaaaiig David!!

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I'll tell you who else.......every member of the "Carry On" films and the bloke that invented the seaside postcard.......hangings too f***ing good for them!

Benny Hill......should be dug up and burnt !

The bloke who invented Miss World........scum !

Salsa dancing.......my arse, just an excuse for molestation the dirty fuckers and don't even get me started on the Tango !

Chiropractors.......pure f***ing filth !

People who ogle Lara Croft........sick fuckers, don't they know it's all about the plot !

James Bond films.........it's practically pornagraphic, that Cubby Broccli should be in parkhurst !

What has any of that got to do with sexual harassment? Why are you even confusing these things?

I've been to plenty of lap dancing clubs. I've paid my money & they have performed. Because those women have acted in such a way does that give me licence to overstep the mark? Am I entitled & are they to blame for my behaviour?

So you did no better than Weinstein then?.......you exploited women who were willing to be exploited for your own gratification.......the fact you never laid hands to them is completely irrelevant !

Many of those girls are vulnerable in some way and exploited and you have fuelled that exploitation and indeed been part of it in some small way.

Or is it only blokes worth 10 million dollars or where actual touching takes place that exploit women for reward?.........is there degrees of grubbiness ?..........

If he is indeed guilty of harassment & assault, then yeah I'm better than him. There won't be any conviction anyway. Throwing millions of dollars at these things normally helps. Guilty or not ;-)

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I have not read what specific acts he is accused of so I don't know what sexual assault is meant to mean in the context of this story.

Have you ever touched a girls arse in the pub.....one you didn't know and who wasn't your girlfriend ?

If she rocks up 20 years later and says your assaulted her, does that make you a sexual predator?.........seemingly it does.......except I don't think it does!

 

If a girls said in 1991 "I'll give you a blow job for a lift home" and you let her......does that make you a predator ?........did you exploit her?..........do you deserve to have your life ruined 26 years after the event?

 

Sorry, but not in my reality.

Here's one of the many accusations, defending the man when you haven't even looked into what he's been accused of is a bit silly and reactionary really, this goes far beyond "mixed signals" and swapping sex for favours.

 

At one dinner, in New York, she recalled, Harvey was there, and I got up to leave. And Harvey said, Oh, I'll drop you off. Harvey had dropped me off before, so I didnt really expect anything out of the ordinaryI expected just to be dropped off. In the car, Weinstein said goodbye to Sciorra, and she went upstairs to her apartment. She was alone and getting ready for bed a few minutes later when she heard a knock on the door. It wasnt that late, she said. Like, it wasnt the middle of the night, so I opened the door a crack to see who it was. And he pushed the door open. She paused to collect herself. Weinstein, she continued, walked in like it was his apartment, like he owned the place, and started unbuttoning his shirt. So it was very clear where he thought this was going to go. And I was in a nightgown. I didnt have much on. He circled the apartment; to Sciorra, it appeared that he was checking whether anyone else was there.

 

Sciorra told me that listening to a recording from 2015 that The New Yorker released earlier this month, in which Weinstein is heard demanding that a model enter his hotel room, really triggered me. Sciorra remembered Weinstein employing the same tactics as he cornered her, backing her into her bedroom. Come here, come on, cut it out, what are you doing, come here, she remembered him saying. She tried to be assertive. This is not happening, she told him. Youve got to go. You have to leave. Get out of my apartment.

 

Then Weinstein grabbed her, she said. He shoved me onto the bed, and he got on top of me. Sciorra struggled. I kicked and I yelled, she said, but Weinstein locked her arms over her head with one hand and forced sexual intercourse on her. When he was done, he ejaculated on my leg, and on my nightgown. It was a family heirloom, handed down from relatives in Italy and embroidered in white cotton. He said, I have impeccable timing, and then he said, This is for you. Sciorra paused. And then he attempted to perform oral sex on me. And I struggled, but I had very little strength left in me. Sciorra said that her body started to shake violently. I think, in a way, thats what made him leave, because it looked like I was having a seizure or something.

 

In the weeks and months that followed the alleged attack, Sciorra didnt tell anyone about it. Like most of these women, I was so ashamed of what happened, she said. And I fought. I fought. But still I was like, Why did I open that door? Who opens the door at that time of night? I was definitely embarrassed by it. I felt disgusting. I felt like I had f****d up. She grew depressed and lost weight. Her father, unaware of the attack but concerned for her well-being, urged her to seek help, and she did see a therapist, but, she said, I dont even think I told the therapist. Its pathetic.

 

Sciorra never spoke to the police. Neither did the anonymous woman who alleged rape in the earlier New Yorker article, although two others did. The anonymous woman said that, although I regret not being maybe stronger in the moment, her fears that charging Weinstein publicly might change her life permanently were too great. Its hard to know. . . . Its like choosing a different life path.

More here - https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/weighing-the-costs-of-speaking-out-about-harvey-weinstein/amp

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