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They went from flying planes into buildings to living and breeding amongst there sworn enemy (the uk) while the government payed them for the pleasure. They Seem pretty smart to me. They'll have turned the uk into the shite hole they want it to be in 20 are 30 years if not less, they're scumbags but they're not stupid scumbags.

Jobs done, didn't you get the memo ?

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I don't believe for one second that the US government would do anything like that to its own people but I can see clearly that ALL western governments exploited this terrible act for their own ends.

The one thing that sticks in my mind is the look on the faces of the firemen that were sent in to that building minutes before it collapsed, they were heroes, they knew they were the death watch but s

We have went to war and invaded countries for a lot less.  No need to wipe out there firemen and a building on the prefix for an invasion. A car bomb in the street would have done if that was the

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911 completely blindsided the US. Since then they have become so much wiser. They have also spent 16 years pursuing and degrading that particular enemy. Anywhere they have found alqaeda they have attacked them!

 

Alqaeda carried out 911. Their objective is different to IS who at least inspire much of what we see now. Alqaeda wanted to hurt the US government by attacking the economy, democracy and military as a means of forcing them out of the ME. IS don't even try to do that, they just want to spread their radicalism and terrorise those that stand in their way.

 

I don't think it's difficult to see why 911 hasn't happened again.

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That's what I meant by blindsided, just didn't see it as a realistic threat and so didn't take necessary measures.

 

We all know there are bad folks with guns out on the streets but most of us don't wear a vest as a precaution, lol. If I stepped out my house and got plugged, id consider that something of a suprise/blindsided.

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Just as many reports of public saying the planes where not passenger and resembled cargo planes also

But what about all the actual evidence? Cockpit recordings? Forensics? The people that didn't go home? The photographs of the remains of a United Airlines plane on the roof of WTC 5? The engine and landing gear recovered from the ground?

So your telling me terrorists have gone from the well planned 911 attacks to driving vans into crowds lol give me a break

What's your version, then?

I'm not denying planes so of course the evedence is there but ok there isn't no pentagon decent footage that's my point why did the FBI confenscate so many cctv footage from near by properties also ??

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I'm not denying planes so of course the evedence is there but ok there isn't no pentagon decent footage that's my point why did the FBI confenscate so many cctv footage from near by properties also ??

Born said earlier on in the thread, there is video but up to that point, I don't know of a CCTV system designed to capture that kind of footage. It's not very good footage. Saying that removing video evidence when investigating a crime is a pretty standard procedure, wouldn't you agree? The elephant in the room with the Pentagon attack was the remains of flight 77. It was all over the place.

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Michael Hingson and his guide dog Roselle on Larry King Live in 2002.

Hingson worked on the 78th floor of Tower 1 as a computer salesman. Roselle was Hingson's 5th guide dog...

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Roselle was asleep under her owner's desk on the 78th floor in Tower 1 of the World Trade Center when the attack commenced. She was awakened by the plane impacting some fifteen floors above them. Roselle calmly helped Hingson to stairwell B, despite the smoke, confusion and noise surrounding her.

She led her owner and 30 other people down 1,463 steps out of the tower. After descending over half the distance, they passed the firemen who were heading up, who Roselle stopped to greet. The descent took just over an hour. Just after they exited the tower, Tower 2 collapsed, sending debris flying. Hingson later said, "While everyone ran in panic, Roselle remained totally focused on her job, while debris fell around us, and even hit us, Roselle stayed calm." Once clear, Roselle led her owner to the safety of a subway station, where they helped a woman who had been blinded by falling debris. Once they arrived home, Roselle immediately began playing with her retired guide dog predecessor, Linnie, as if nothing important had happened.

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