Nik_B 3,791 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 With the ridiculous high standards being demanded of our military maybe these would be war crimes as well...after all they had the guys trapped ina ditch. Maybe they could have got an interpreter to get him to surrender The second video is of Danish troops flanking a taliban position, they also finish them off and almost were prosecuted for what was a well executed attack. I think we should allow the military to make decisions they see fit given the situation they find themselves in at the time and not through 20/20 hindsight. Most of us cannot imagine the effect of the adrenaline alone which must be nuts, you can't expect people to behave entirely rationally after a 2 hour firefight where people have been trying to kill you. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,051 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 There's at least one bloke on this thread who understands it only too well Nic 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,938 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Not to clued up on Military matters but as he was serving God and Country the Queen should have stepped in before he was sent to jail in the first place,just my take on it tbh. god had nothing to do with it he wasnt serving god and he didnt take orders from him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 They've adjourned his bail hearing for another week Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Listened to the audio again, if he hadn't said that one last sentence he would have probably never been convicted 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,289 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 His time in jail was wasted, he could have wiped a hell of a lot more out. FACT IS they spend all their time being trained to kill and not one min being detained so to speak. I feel immensely proud of our armed forces. As Kay has on her profile, those who don't stand behind them, feel free to stand in front of them. Db is obviously as proud of his army too. Remember, LEST WE FORGET Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just seen two ex service men charged with murder for shooting a boy from the ira who was running from the police. Disgusting. Should be given medals I worked with an ex-Marine who was posted there, the IRA used similar tactics to other insurgents, they sent the kids to throw rocks at the soldiers until they popped their heads up to tell them off and a sniper would be waiting to blow their heads off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,615 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Its a mad thing war to have to make split decisions in combat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jiggy 3,209 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I've read several accounts that say during some of the major assaults in the falklands war Argentinian solders were shot even though they tried to surrender, the Army/Marines couldn't have taken them captive even if they'd wanted to. I bet that kind of stuff has happened loads. I remember reading about a bayonet charge in the Iraq war, I couldn't believe what I was reading even though I've spent my entire life researching WW2 and other wars. I naively thought stuff like that was ancient history...I guess that's thanks to the sanitized media reporting. We just don't know what kind of situation that squad was facing at the time funny old war the falklands it's hard get your head around fighting with pride to claim an island 1000s of miles away. A lot of lives wasted there. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I've read several accounts that say during some of the major assaults in the falklands war Argentinian solders were shot even though they tried to surrender, the Army/Marines couldn't have taken them captive even if they'd wanted to. I bet that kind of stuff has happened loads. I remember reading about a bayonet charge in the Iraq war, I couldn't believe what I was reading even though I've spent my entire life researching WW2 and other wars. I naively thought stuff like that was ancient history...I guess that's thanks to the sanitized media reporting. We just don't know what kind of situation that squad was facing at the time funny old war the falklands it's hard get your head around fighting with pride to claim an island 1000s of miles away. A lot of lives wasted there.Not really, we went there and won our people there their home back.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) DB, with all due respect you are talking absolute nonsense.......I know you like to style yourself as some kind of John Rambo in a kaftan but we are talking about how professional soldiers conduct themselves. If you are the sort to cut round plugging un-armed and injured enemy combatants just say so.......stop trying to make up excuses. It's wouldn't surprise me, I reckon that's standard practice for camel jockeys BUT it's not standard practice for the foremost purveyors of military action in the world. [o[ Wilf shut the f**k up you havent got a clue and talk absolute cobblers. roller blade east end warrior or wanna be LOL What would you know about soldiers? probably played tambourine in the Salvation army or was that to dangerous for you as London must have been . you moving to Ireland and all LOL The big divide Wilf is I respect any man willing to put on a uniform leave his family and live or die in some cases for what they believe in. We cant all be perfect can we Wilf ?Some do and have done and then their are the Wilfs of this world who like the moral high ground based on their media reports and spout shite LOL Edited December 17, 2016 by desertbred 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) He was a professional soldiier, he stepped off the parade ground and got caught it happens and is part of the turmoil of conflict. Personally I dont think he should have been prosecuted he acted in a humane way . His downfall was his comment regarding breaking the Geneva Convention which should be torn up war is war. I hope the judges see the reality of the situation and send him home to his wife and kids. Are you f***ing deluded? Tear up the Geneva convention? The Geneva convention is not fit for purpose and most signatories observe it when it suits them. much like many things in the public domain bull shit prevails over reality read some of the Submissions in the UN about the Convention incidentaly another organisation that needs to be revised and reconstructed. an organisation that for political needs has 6 countries as permanent members and they have the power as individual members to Veto the Will of the entire assembly LOL Democracy in action and I am deluded LOL Edited December 17, 2016 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I've got to say that I'm with Desertbred on this one ! Sgt. Blackman was trained, paid and instructed to kill enemy combatants, and that's exactly what he did ! This was not an innocent civilian, or a unlucky bystander - it was an enemy soldier who, only minutes before, had been trying to kill our own men. He picked a fight and he lost, simple as that ! The Geneva Convention is a convenient smoke screen - one that the powers that be invoke when it suits them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jiggy 3,209 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I've read several accounts that say during some of the major assaults in the falklands war Argentinian solders were shot even though they tried to surrender, the Army/Marines couldn't have taken them captive even if they'd wanted to. I bet that kind of stuff has happened loads. I remember reading about a bayonet charge in the Iraq war, I couldn't believe what I was reading even though I've spent my entire life researching WW2 and other wars. I naively thought stuff like that was ancient history...I guess that's thanks to the sanitized media reporting. We just don't know what kind of situation that squad was facing at the time funny old war the falklands it's hard get your head around fighting with pride to claim an island 1000s of miles away. A lot of lives wasted there.Not really, we went there and won our people there their home back..buddy it's somewhere you colonised so if you pullute the place with immigrants for a hundred year that makes it yours maybe London should be invaded by muslims considering they are the majority religion have a vote now and do well and have a vote in 20 years and will you still believe in democracy when their the majority 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I've read several accounts that say during some of the major assaults in the falklands war Argentinian solders were shot even though they tried to surrender, the Army/Marines couldn't have taken them captive even if they'd wanted to. I bet that kind of stuff has happened loads. I remember reading about a bayonet charge in the Iraq war, I couldn't believe what I was reading even though I've spent my entire life researching WW2 and other wars. I naively thought stuff like that was ancient history...I guess that's thanks to the sanitized media reporting. We just don't know what kind of situation that squad was facing at the time funny old war the falklands it's hard get your head around fighting with pride to claim an island 1000s of miles away. A lot of lives wasted there.Not really, we went there and won our people there their home back..buddy it's somewhere you colonised so if you pullute the place with immigrants for a hundred year that makes it yours maybe London should be invaded by muslims considering they are the majority religion have a vote now and do well and have a vote in 20 years and will you still believe in democracy when their the majority London is part of Britain with people living there for thousands of years A bit different to an uninhabited island Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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