Francie 6,368 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Mr wasp i would just like to add, that these suicide bombers are brainwashed into this because there told they have to do works to get to there ( heaven ). Catholics also are told they have to do works to get to heaven, actually all other religons say you have to do works to get to heaven, except christianity. No works will ever get you to heaven, you cant work your way to heaven, bible says only way to heaven is if you beleive in the lord an what he sacraficed for us. Its a gift of God, by grace threw faith you are saved. Not by how good you are or works you done. Oh an btw it was 6 to 10000 years lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 A man without beliefs is a man with no purpose in life Belief does not have to include religion. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Shepp wheter you like it or not, your beleif is a religon, theres no two ways about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,984 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 No it isn't, a religion is the worship of a god! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Wasp 219 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 bible says only way to heaven is if you beleive in the lord an what he sacraficed for us. Its a gift of God, by grace threw faith you are saved. Sorry Francie, but that reads to me: believe what i say or else. Another form of control. The bible was written by people. Thousands of years ago when the earth was a much more uncivilised place (that is not a joke by the way, even though i cant believe i just said it) and the masses needed to be controlled and manipulated. Much like is done today but differently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gamerooster 1,179 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 A man without beliefs is a man with no purpose in life Belief does not have to include religion. Exactly my friend Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,102 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Most priests keep a choir boy in the fridge so they can slip into something cool after a hard sermon ,fact . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 No it isn't, a religion is the worship of a god!religionrɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/Submit noun the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. "ideas about the relationship between science and religion" synonyms: faith, belief, divinity, worship, creed, teaching, doctrine, theology; More a particular system of faith and worship. plural noun: religions "the world's great religions" a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion. "consumerism is the new religion" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,102 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Atheist- pure and simple mate ,a non believer ,a realist ,a strong minded person not prone to see ghosts ,hear voices or live according to a book nor keep boys in fridges . 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 bible says only way to heaven is if you beleive in the lord an what he sacraficed for us. Its a gift of God, by grace threw faith you are saved. Sorry Francie, but that reads to me: believe what i say or else. Another form of control. The bible was written by people. Thousands of years ago when the earth was a much more uncivilised place (that is not a joke by the way, even though i cant believe i just said it) and the masses needed to be controlled and manipulated. Much like is done today but differently. Think about it this way, if you dont beleive in the bible or God, then how is it do as i say or else, youd have to beleive in this concept first or else how could it apply as a control method? With respect mate do you know much about the bible have you read it? Could you explain to me how the bible could control people back then, when it was wrote hundreds of years apart by men who didnt even know each other, remember there was no www, or phones etc an only compiled into one several hundred years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Gain 1,764 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Anyone with an ounce of scientific thinking behind them will consider the fact that there is a high possibility of other life in the universe. If this is true, some of that life may have been around a lot longer than humans. You could be right mate, I've seen the proof. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Atheist- pure and simple mate ,a non believer ,a realist ,a strong minded person not prone to see ghosts ,hear voices or live according to a book nor keep boys in fridges . Happy days mate iv no probs with that at all, you probably follow the commandments anyway by default, like me, i have faith in jesus you dont, we can all get along. Iv went threw some dark times an came out the other side, an that was before i was a beleiver, so i think im pretty strong minded, ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,301 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 I just don't get why religious folk are so hell bent on trying to convince the rest of us. Have a read over the next 4 pages like ive just done and ask yourself which side it is that actually tries to do the convincing on debates of this nature Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 3,031 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 francie if you were born in in the middle east you would follow islam if you were born in india you would be a hindu ,if you were born in Tibet you would be a budhist ect ect ect ect ect it all depends on where you were raised and who indoctrinated you 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,102 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Atheist- pure and simple mate ,a non believer ,a realist ,a strong minded person not prone to see ghosts ,hear voices or live according to a book nor keep boys in fridges . Happy days mate iv no probs with that at all, you probably follow the commandments anyway by default, like me, i have faith in jesus you dont, we can all get along. Iv went threw some dark times an came out the other side, an that was before i was a beleiver, so i think im pretty strong minded, Commandments ,now there's a word .Dictators all over the world have used that one to control the masses .I live by no commandments just human decency but your saying they are there anyway in the back of my mind from your bible ,a good angle too lol.Not trying to rub you up the wrong way but bad times in my life have only served to make me stronger ,not turn to ,well whatever you turned to .Got go now ,out to break a few commandments lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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