dodger 3,636 Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago Makhmudov fury going to be a cumbersome boring fight unfortunately imo there styles wont make a good fight for the fans Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 3,140 Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, mC HULL said: I think your heads mush mate ali was a racist draft dodger I look how the media and co manipulate the media to.brainwash us how.much easier it was back then Lewis would a made light work of him Its men like you ruined boxing it used to.be prizefighter blood.sweat and tears now it's like tip.tap amateur shit you love so much ? But i agree with froch itl be funny i think fury will.find out real quick a man at 13 stone that can fight and move is too.much for.him hes pick3d about the worse person he would fight lol Should a picked Egan or that other one the old bodybuilder It'll be great to watch i.hop3.your not.tuning in to.the the spectacle john fury v Froch will never get sanctioned 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 18,119 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 10 minutes ago, greg64 said: john fury v Froch will never get sanctioned Misfits ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 10,164 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, mC HULL said: I think your heads mush mate ali was a racist draft dodger I look how the media and co manipulate the media to.brainwash us how.much easier it was back then Lewis would a made light work of him Its men like you ruined boxing it used to.be prizefighter blood.sweat and tears now it's like tip.tap amateur shit you love so much ? But i agree with froch itl be funny i think fury will.find out real quick a man at 13 stone that can fight and move is too.much for.him hes pick3d about the worse person he would fight lol Should a picked Egan or that other one the old bodybuilder It'll be great to watch i.hop3.your not.tuning in to.the the spectacle I bow to your greater knowledge, brain power and experience. And I'm sorry I singlehandedly ruined boxing. I don't quite understand how I did it but, to keep the peace, I'm sorry anyway. Just two corrections. Ali was not a draft dodger. He refused to go to war and said :"I ain't going, just take me to jail". That's a refuser, an objector. He was prepared to take the consequences for his beliefs. His refusal was broadcast in the open for all to see. As for his racism , he believed blacks should only have sex with each other and whites should also only exclusively have sex with each other. That's not racism. It's a personal opinion. ( Incidentally, his words did not match his deeds, because 'Ive read there were often queues of women outside his hotel bedroom door. Some of whom were white. Ali did not deny them.) A draft dodger is somebody like your hero Trump, who claimed his bone spurs were so painful that he couldn't possibly fight on a battlefield. Presumbly his stance was, I'd love to do my bit. But the pain is too great. So whilst his compatriots went to war, he was flying on Epstein's jet. That's sly, slimy and cowardly. Trump is a true racist. He was forced by a court ruling to let apartments to blacks. Previously he had refused. I repeat, for me and hundreds of thousands of lads like me, Ali was a role model. In the 60s I was in a residential school for bad boys and just about every lad had a home inked tattoo of Ali. Which was incredible given the state of race relations at the time. When we shadow boxed or sparred we shouted "what's my name?" In his honour. He stuck it to the authorities . He kind of spoke for us. Many of my generation were in tears when he died. He was the greatest. Tbh, I was upset when Joe Frazier died too. He was another role model for us who never left anything in the ring. A true warrior. Shame we are left with clowns like the Furys now. Edited 5 hours ago by jukel123 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 3,140 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, mC HULL said: Misfits ? even on misfits it would only be an exhibition fight john fury would never pass the medicals and don't think it would ever happen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 5,144 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, greg64 said: even on misfits it would only be an exhibition fight john fury would never pass the medicals and don't think it would ever happen The way john fury carries on cant seing him passing any drug test Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 18,119 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, jukel123 said: I bow to your greater knowledge, brain power and experience. And I'm sorry I singlehandedly ruined boxing. I don't quite understand how I did it but, to keep the peace, I'm sorry anyway. Just two corrections. Ali was not a draft dodger. He refused to go to war and said :"I ain't going, just take me to jail". That's a refuser, an objector. He was prepared to take the consequences for his beliefs. His refusal was broadcast in the open for all to see. As for his racism , he believed blacks should only have sex with each other and whites should also only exclusively have sex with each other. That's not racism. It's a personal opinion. ( Incidentally, his words did not match his deeds, because 'Ive read there were often queues of women outside his hotel bedroom door. Some of whom were white. Ali did not deny them.) A draft dodger is somebody like your hero Trump, who claimed his bone spurs were so painful that he couldn't possibly fight on a battlefield. Presumbly his stance was, I'd love to do my bit. But the pain is too great. So whilst his compatriots went to war, he was flying on Epstein's jet. That's sly, slimy and cowardly. I repeat, for me and hundreds of thousands of lads like me, Ali was a role model. In the 60s I was in a residential school for bad boys and just about every lad had a home ink tattoo of Ali. When we shadow boxed or sparred we shouted "what's my name?" In his honour. If you don't understand it, you don't understand it. He stuck it to the authorities . He kind of spoke for us. Many of my generation were in tears when he died. He was the greatest. Tbh, I was upset when Joe Frazier died too. He was another role model who never left anything in the ring. A true warrior. Shame we are left with clowns like the Furys now. You like the amateur style you can't have that and old school.prize fighting wouldn't want any one hurt He didn't stand with his fellow men did he dodged it Typical black hypocrite on the whites one minute for what he can get calling em playing the race card the next he was ahead of his time alright what's trump got. To.do.with boxing ? My age group.it was tyson who did it just better I dont get why tyson fury is a clown ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 18,119 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, greg64 said: even on misfits it would only be an exhibition fight john fury would never pass the medicals and don't think it would ever happen Why would he ? He jogs regular with pros ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 3,140 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Why would he ? He jogs regular with pros ? he 60 and blind in one eye ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 3,140 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 15 minutes ago, greg64 said: he 60 and blind in one eye ffs well i recon he must be because he keeps saying that fury beat Usyk in both fights Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 18,119 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago I know you older uns think you had the best of it but you never 90s we had tyson Lewis best to do it at heavy ? The best to.do.it rjj then heart A warrior we had benn v Mcclellen You think we watched the old fights of Ali and thought that was better ? Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 30,037 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago I was listening to Steve Bunce earlier, discussing the John Fury shit, and he put that to bed nicely. But more interestingly (for me) was hos virw on the current boxing scene, he stated that it is the best irs ever been and a month worth of fights now is better than a years worth in the 70s and 80s... his point was there's are over 2000 pro boxers now and back in the 70s there was 650 or so... so we are getting more fights than ever... he said he'd watched all these eras first hand and the best is now... I was born 76 so started my interest in the mid 80s, loved Hagler, named my first dog after him.. then Tyson late 80s into the 90s, obviously the middleweight then Benn, Eubank, Watson etc... heavies we're good with Bowe, Lewis, Holyfiekd, Tyson etc...and on it went... I have rose tinted glasses, I get exited at the thought of Prince Naseem walk out and his style, the massive stadium fights of Been v Eubank or Bruno beating Mcall, Tyson destroying Berbick, I was probably 12 or so and remember it vividly...but... are we not seeing some truly great fighters now as well.. Inoue, Crawford, Cannelo, Bertibiev, Bivol, Usyk, boots Ennis, Stevenson, Benavidez, Opetai... There's loads of good fights around those lower weights, but everyone looks at Furys antics abd judges boxing on that. ... It will never be the same as it was, like everything else, because we were younger and excitable...and we remember it from those youthful eyes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 10,164 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 22 minutes ago, NEWKID said: I was listening to Steve Bunce earlier, discussing the John Fury shit, and he put that to bed nicely. But more interestingly (for me) was hos virw on the current boxing scene, he stated that it is the best irs ever been and a month worth of fights now is better than a years worth in the 70s and 80s... his point was there's are over 2000 pro boxers now and back in the 70s there was 650 or so... so we are getting more fights than ever... he said he'd watched all these eras first hand and the best is now... I was born 76 so started my interest in the mid 80s, loved Hagler, named my first dog after him.. then Tyson late 80s into the 90s, obviously the middleweight then Benn, Eubank, Watson etc... heavies we're good with Bowe, Lewis, Holyfiekd, Tyson etc...and on it went... I have rose tinted glasses, I get exited at the thought of Prince Naseem walk out and his style, the massive stadium fights of Been v Eubank or Bruno beating Mcall, Tyson destroying Berbick, I was probably 12 or so and remember it vividly...but... are we not seeing some truly great fighters now as well.. Inoue, Crawford, Cannelo, Bertibiev, Bivol, Usyk, boots Ennis, Stevenson, Benavidez, Opetai... There's loads of good fights around those lower weights, but everyone looks at Furys antics abd judges boxing on that. ... It will never be the same as it was, like everything else, because we were younger and excitable...and we remember it from those youthful eyes Good post mate. Some great points. A different perspective to my post. But it's always worthwhile reading sensible opinions. Edited 1 hour ago by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.