gnasher16 31,346 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 On 06/04/2022 at 16:37, New moon said: That bellew was a tricky character but nothing special, haye to good for him in his prime, despite being smaller and weaker If you was to ever ask David Haye who the bigger man was he would be telling you exactly what ive told you. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,637 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Yes Please stop No f**k it carry on....do some more ! usyk didn’t knock one top cruiserweight out did he ? so you don’t think taller dogs struggle with dogs getting underneath ? everyone who has ever been near dogs has seen that i’m not talking same dogs kg difference i’m talking tall v smaller min your head bellew was better than hare in his prime bellew best win was makubu vacant belt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: If you was to ever ask David Haye who the bigger man was he would be telling you exactly what ive told you. Hopefully it will be in the Caribbean if I do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,637 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 gnash so in your head this great boxer who is ahead a fury had a close fight with chisora didn’t like the pressure we’re shit fury beat a better chisora by outboxing him hardly got touched and made him jack same bellew who would a beaten hayebecause he is stronger but chisora much stronger than bellew would a knocked bellew on his head was in his prime when weak old haye stopped him in 5 you have watched to much matchroom boxing if you think a prime haye wouldn’t a hammered bellew in 2 rounds mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 I'm not sure a case for bellew as a great boxer is being made, because there isnt 1. I think haye would have beat bellew before he dropped to bits, adonis Stevenson stopped bellew without much fuss, Stevenson was similar to haye imo, dont think bellew took a belt from a champion did he?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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mC HULL 15,637 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, New moon said: both really cruiserweight new moon bellew fought at light heavy lighter then haye ever has and any champion bellew fought knocked him out bar a washed up haye and cleverly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 Yes i agree, haye made a few ££ going up to heavyweight but he wasnt a holyfield or usyk, he was good to watch at cruiserweight though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 4 hours ago, gnasher16 said: Bellew knew he was a bigger man than Haye where it mattered.....he knew his core strength and resistance was far superior to Hayes....yes Haye was more explosive but he was the smaller weaker man within the confines of a fight......Joshua the same,yes he is a big lad of course he is,very explosive but he has no real core strength........its like horse power versus torque.....Joshua/Haye have bundles of horse power but no real torque,hence once their horse power is used up they dont have the torque to keep everything together. Not for me, bellew knew haye was washed, that gave him the edge mentally, they met at the right time for bellew its as simple as that, its not so much as what bellew did physically as so much as what haye couldn't do. If bellew was so big and strong he would have been heavyweight earlier in his career. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Golovkin wins tko, not the fighter he once was but at 40 thats to be expected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,279 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 On 08/04/2022 at 12:13, mC HULL said: gnash so in your head this great boxer who is ahead a fury had a close fight with chisora didn’t like the pressure we’re shit fury beat a better chisora by outboxing him hardly got touched and made him jack same bellew who would a beaten hayebecause he is stronger but chisora much stronger than bellew would a knocked bellew on his head was in his prime when weak old haye stopped him in 5 you have watched to much matchroom boxing if you think a prime haye wouldn’t a hammered bellew in 2 rounds mate Gnash has clearly donned the gloves and stepped through the ropes, he has walked the walk so is entitled and far more enlightened than most of us to talk the talk, his understanding of the boxing game goes far deeper than any of us armchair fans and I for one find his views and opinions on the game very interesting and worth listening to, even at my age I enjoy being educated by people that have been there and done it, I would not question his knowledge of the boxing game anymore than I would argue with born hunter on modern warfare or splitting atoms, 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 This is just everyday boxing talk/debate, entitled or enlightenment not required. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,637 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Greyman said: Gnash has clearly donned the gloves and stepped through the ropes, he has walked the walk so is entitled and far more enlightened than most of us to talk the talk, his understanding of the boxing game goes far deeper than any of us armchair fans and I for one find his views and opinions on the game very interesting and worth listening to, even at my age I enjoy being educated by people that have been there and done it, I would not question his knowledge of the boxing game anymore than I would argue with born hunter on modern warfare or splitting atoms, gnash must be punch drunk if he thinks bellew beats a prime haye plenty of lads a boxed greyman 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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New moon 250 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, stonewall said: Watched it earlier mate, you know what your getting with ggg, non of the tip tap style, always goes for ko, age as caught up with him now, 1 last big money match then retirement. Edited April 9, 2022 by New moon 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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