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On 06/04/2022 at 16:37, New moon said:

That bellew was a tricky character but nothing special, haye to good for him in his prime, despite being smaller and weaker?

If you was to ever ask David Haye who the bigger man was he would be telling you exactly what ive told you.

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7 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

???? Yes

 

???????? Please stop

 

????????????? No f**k it carry on....do some more !

usyk didn’t knock one top cruiserweight out did he ? 

so you don’t think taller dogs struggle with dogs getting underneath ?? everyone who has ever been near dogs has seen that i’m not talking same dogs kg difference i’m talking tall v smaller 

min your head bellew was better than hare in his prime ? ? bellew best win was makubu vacant belt ? 

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gnash so in your head this great boxer who is ahead a fury had a close fight with chisora didn’t like the pressure 

we’re shit fury beat a better chisora by outboxing him hardly got touched and made him jack 

same bellew who would a beaten hayebecause  he is stronger ? 

but chisora much stronger than bellew would a knocked bellew on his head 

was in his prime when weak old haye stopped him in 5 ? 

you have watched to much matchroom boxing if you think a prime haye wouldn’t a hammered bellew in 2 rounds mate 

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I'm not sure a case for bellew as a great boxer is being made, because there isnt 1. I think haye would have beat bellew before he dropped to bits, adonis Stevenson stopped bellew without much fuss,  Stevenson was similar to haye imo, dont think bellew took a belt from a champion did he??

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12 minutes ago, New moon said:

 

both really cruiserweight new moon bellew fought at light heavy lighter then haye ever has 

and any champion bellew fought knocked him out bar a washed up haye and cleverly ? 

 

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4 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

Bellew knew he was a bigger man than Haye where it mattered.....he knew his core strength and resistance was far superior to Hayes....yes Haye was more explosive but he was the smaller weaker man within the confines of a fight......Joshua the same,yes he is a big lad of course he is,very explosive but he has no real core strength........its like horse power versus torque.....Joshua/Haye have bundles of horse power but no real torque,hence once their horse power is used up they dont have the torque to keep everything together.

Not for me, bellew knew haye was washed, that gave him the edge mentally, they met at the right time for bellew its as simple as that, its not so much as what bellew did physically as so much as what haye couldn't do. If bellew was so big and strong he would have been heavyweight earlier in his career.

 

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On 08/04/2022 at 12:13, mC HULL said:

gnash so in your head this great boxer who is ahead a fury had a close fight with chisora didn’t like the pressure 

we’re shit fury beat a better chisora by outboxing him hardly got touched and made him jack 

same bellew who would a beaten hayebecause  he is stronger ? 

but chisora much stronger than bellew would a knocked bellew on his head 

was in his prime when weak old haye stopped him in 5 ? 

you have watched to much matchroom boxing if you think a prime haye wouldn’t a hammered bellew in 2 rounds mate 

Gnash has clearly donned the gloves and stepped through the ropes, he has walked the walk so is entitled and far more enlightened than most of us to talk the talk, his understanding of the boxing game goes far deeper than any of us armchair fans and I for one find his views and opinions on the game very interesting and worth listening to, even at my age I enjoy being educated by people that have been there and done it, I would not question his knowledge of the boxing game anymore than I would argue with born hunter on modern warfare or splitting atoms, ?

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3 hours ago, Greyman said:

Gnash has clearly donned the gloves and stepped through the ropes, he has walked the walk so is entitled and far more enlightened than most of us to talk the talk, his understanding of the boxing game goes far deeper than any of us armchair fans and I for one find his views and opinions on the game very interesting and worth listening to, even at my age I enjoy being educated by people that have been there and done it, I would not question his knowledge of the boxing game anymore than I would argue with born hunter on modern warfare or splitting atoms, ?

gnash must be punch drunk if he thinks bellew beats a prime haye ? 

plenty of lads a boxed greyman 

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19 minutes ago, stonewall said:

 

Watched it earlier mate, you know what your getting with ggg, non of the tip tap style, always goes for ko, age as caught up with him now, 1 last big money match then retirement.

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