chartpolski 29,112 Posted December 24, 2025 Report Share Posted December 24, 2025 15 hours ago, gnasher16 said: Yes definitely mate look back through different era's elite fighters have always been popular world icons if you like.....Ali was seen as a hero through compassion as well as skills....before that Braddock,Louis etc seen as hero's for a different reason fighting through the Great Depression and World Wars.......now " hero's " are being made without any actual achievement just through being popular on Youtube and suchlike......its a popularity contest playing out in a sport that has been hijacked on a different financial level than whatever corruption Don King might have brought along......today literally any half talented fighter should really forget about perfecting his craft in the gym and just get working on his social media profile.....and yes the Saudis who know and understand nothing about the traditions and history of boxing are offering the sport up as something it never was.....ive said for a while now the governing bodies are there to protect the sport and as much blame as we want to shove on the Saudis ultimately its our own boxing people who have sold the sport out. Ali visited Saudi a few times, to perform the Haj and to visit schools , etc. He visited my daughter’s school twice and chatted with the kids and parents and had photos taken. Its to my great regret that I was out of the country both times and never got to meet him. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,803 Posted December 24, 2025 Report Share Posted December 24, 2025 Some good points there. My view is that sport always will evolve and change. More often the drivers of change will be greed, but some visionaries have elevated sport to different levels and brought good things. Barry Hearn taking darts from relatively small dark halls to indoor arenas, and from the ‘best of order please’ silence on the throw, broken only by the coughs from the audience choking on cigarette smoke, to the raucous technicolour atmosphere that puts many a top flight football crowd to shame. Arab money though is different in my opinion. They have sh!t tons of it and virtually everyone and everything seems to have a price. As been said they have no regard for heritage and tradition. Take golf and the LIV (Saudi backed tour) making offers too good to refuse to some of the games biggest stars to leave the main PGA tour, starting a civil war and lots of bad blood within the game. That’s where I have the utmost respect for McIlroy who put tradition and the prestige of winning his sports blue ribbon events over a reported offer of $850m+ just for turning up on the LIV tour…, especially when a few other big names turned coat and took the money after initially slating the Saudis. The world has changed so much recently, I forget that a 40 year old man has really only known wall to wall live games on Sky, all seated stadia, grass on the pitch year round, no pass backs to the keeper, even women playing the game ffs. Lots has changed for the better no doubt, but with that for me the real fans, without whom “football is nothing” have been disenfranchised. Look at the rinsing fans are getting for the 2026 world cup, or the arab money that bought two world cups in 12 years. Why haven’t we seen a UK world cup, or a final at Wembley since 1966! I hope in the fullness of time boxing will get back on track, but fear there’s a generation being brought up to see these pantomimes as what the sport actually is. And as Gnasher pointed out, if you want to succeed then playing the media game is now key. Every panto needs a villain and Paul is obviously one of the best, and made an absolute fortune at it so there’ll sure as sh!t be a generation inspired to be like him now. And like Gnasher part of me wanted to see Jake Paul killed or crippled so that we’d see an end to all this garbage, although I’m not even convinced that would save boxing now. I reckon the likes of fast Eddie would cry a few crocodile tears, the Saudis would just chuck another $200m at it and we’d see Joshua v Logan Paul ‘The Avengeance’. One things for sure, things are only going to get worse for those that remember better times and the sports we grew up loving. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOKEL 2,398 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) Great win for Dalton Smith last night for the WBC Crown. Absolute banging fight to boot! Https://youtu.be/gUaYUBGqrV8?si=6BkdjBRvXft3ev2y And on another note, the milas v shala fight on the undercard of kabayel. Referee should never be allowed near a boxing ring again!!! Think he was trying to get the home boy killed! Yokel Edited January 11 by YOKEL 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 33,365 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 3 hours ago, YOKEL said: Great win for Dalton Smith last night for the WBC Crown. Absolute banging fight to boot! Https://youtu.be/gUaYUBGqrV8?si=6BkdjBRvXft3ev2y And on another note, the milas v shala fight on the undercard of kabayel. Referee should never be allowed near a boxing ring again!!! Think he was trying to get the home boy killed! Yokel Thanks for that great little win Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 17,684 Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago On 27/10/2025 at 11:42, TOMO said: Don't have ticktock.....cos I'm not 8..... So God knows what you have posted Paddy showed aspinall how its done when your fans go.half the way around the world to watch you poked bad twice winded in round one still.went threw the meat grinder for.25 mins could.a took an eye he would a fought on with the other Aspinall isn't the same as Men like bisping and paddy mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 30,152 Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 20 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Paddy showed aspinall how its done when your fans go.half the way around the world to watch you poked bad twice winded in round one still.went threw the meat grinder for.25 mins could.a took an eye he would a fought on with the other Aspinall isn't the same as Men like bisping and paddy mate Do you mean Aspinall who's had two eye operations...that Aspinall... Just remember no two injuries are the same... So do yourself a favour and stop your jaws flapping 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 17,684 Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 28 minutes ago, TOMO said: Do you mean Aspinall who's had two eye operations...that Aspinall... Just remember no two injuries are the same... So do yourself a favour and stop your jaws flapping I seen something saying could a been there from birth getting righted ? I haven't seen nothing about him really is he fighting again ? Paddy made himself even more liked after last night next uk superstar id say both falling over still.swinging at the end gaethe quality aswell fan favorite Both quality.fighters I just think Aspinall is an athlete naturally talented quality fighter but is he like Pimplett who is a natural fighter spent 100k on fans family tickets to the usa the only way he was loosing was to be beaten on points after 25 mins he got his eyes poked twice head bounced of the canvas multiple times cuts over the eyes and was still swinging at the end you have to sing his praise got poked in the eye stops you see hes hurt the crowd instantly start booing loud basically saying a brit in an interim fights going to stop the main event off an eye poke again booing paddy for something aspinall did I was smiling at the end when paddy made em eat them.boos Im going to do you a favour and beat brick for the time he beat you 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WataWalloper 4,909 Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Was a decent fight, young paddy done excellent, can remember years ago my scouse mate sent me a video of a real young paddy training me mates daughter an a load other kids at a gym, he told me way back then to keep me on eye on that lad 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 30,152 Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, mC HULL said: I seen something saying could a been there from birth getting righted ? I haven't seen nothing about him really is he fighting again ? Paddy made himself even more liked after last night next uk superstar id say both falling over still.swinging at the end gaethe quality aswell fan favorite Both quality.fighters I just think Aspinall is an athlete naturally talented quality fighter but is he like Pimplett who is a natural fighter spent 100k on fans family tickets to the usa the only way he was loosing was to be beaten on points after 25 mins he got his eyes poked twice head bounced of the canvas multiple times cuts over the eyes and was still swinging at the end you have to sing his praise got poked in the eye stops you see hes hurt the crowd instantly start booing loud basically saying a brit in an interim fights going to stop the main event off an eye poke again booing paddy for something aspinall did I was smiling at the end when paddy made em eat them.boos Im going to do you a favour and beat brick for the time he beat you You need to stop talking....it does you no favours...lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 29,810 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago What an atmosphere and what a fight... 5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 17,684 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 6 hours ago, WataWalloper said: Was a decent fight, young paddy done excellent, can remember years ago my scouse mate sent me a video of a real young paddy training me mates daughter an a load other kids at a gym, he told me way back then to keep me on eye on that lad Took some punishment aye lol an eye poke then a right to the temple then his bounced off the mat 3 times with elbows still recovered lol Edited 3 hours ago by mC HULL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 17,684 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, TOMO said: You need to stop talking....it does you no favours...lol did he beat you ? Or was i miles off lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 17,684 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago I think aspinall could a ruined his career Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 5,105 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, mC HULL said: I think aspinall could a ruined his career How has he ruined his career ? Not as if he asked for a double eye poke is it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 17,684 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, Welsh_red said: How has he ruined his career ? Not as if he asked for a double eye poke is it No and he won threw but how his gone about it after interviews etc called white for having an opinion the man that is the hand.that feeds him was stupid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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