First Season Dogs

[shaneg 2,578]

how's everyone first season dog going. I've one dog pup and he's showing all the right signs so far one dig under his belt I've never had a dog as easy start. I'll take it easy now and just keep him winning. I've two bitch pups one I'm real happy with and the other I've a question mark over. Truth be told I never liked her from the day got her I just can't click with her. But I'll give her a fair chance and see what happenes.

[leethedog 3,071]

Mines showing good signs been to ground a couple of times hasn't found yet but places have been confirmed empty buy an experienced dog

[Daniel cain 46,983]

end of last season this bitch found and bolted 2,unfortunately didn't get a dig to her,this season so far she don't seem bothered in a few foot then back out!going to keep her on the rats and try her after xmas I think.☺

[pablo esc 1,598]

I don't get the stance ( i didn't click with her) . But i don't know your thoughts. , and tribulations. But what about one that a man loaves or its his own stuff, etc or other ideas, when something doesn't work out in his petty way. Lee, that's the right job, if possible to try a dog after one you'd be trying to know, but in fairness and not some ratio, or mistake, but just commonsense

[Aitor 140]

This is GRANA in his firt dig this year, now she have 3 digs more

 

and another photo when she was a puppy

Edited November 5, 2015 by Aitor

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

Ive never understood what lads get from running pups through empty earths or pipes. I think the first time they go to ground they should mark it and enter off their own backs. Encouraging into empty places encourages wasted time running through empty spots later in their career IMO.

On a personal note I have an 18 month old dog ready to start, hes marked a couple of spots over the summer and had a couple of rags on stuff thats been dug so far so hopefully he'll be going sooner rather than later.

[leethedog 3,071]

Ive never understood what lads get from running pups through empty earths or pipes. I think the first time they go to ground they should mark it and enter off their own backs. Encouraging into empty places encourages wasted time running through empty spots later in their career IMO.

On a personal note I have an 18 month old dog ready to start, hes marked a couple of spots over the summer and had a couple of rags on stuff thats been dug so far so hopefully he'll be going sooner rather than later.

If the first part was aimed at me he was off lead and collared up at a puppy spot and flew in no encouragement had a look round and came out the place looked well used so we collared up a experienced dog and he also went in spent about the same amount of time in as well I really don't think the second dog would of went in without strong scent as he wont normally . He did not see the pup go either as he was in the truck

[shaneg 2,578]

Did you mean to dig him again the second day and did you no it was that deep. I would have been in no rush to get him out again after the first dig

[smithwicks 182]

Running along two this year, both are as bakward as each other!

Its a funny one when u dont click wit them shane,

its as if u know there not going to make it but you still hold onto them for the seasonjust to be sure..

[shaneg 2,578]

I've no reason really not to like her just something isn't right. She's a bit smaller than what I normally keep

[mnnewry 35]

Ive never understood what lads get from running pups through empty earths or pipes. I think the first time they go to ground they should mark it and enter off their own backs. Encouraging into empty places encourages wasted time running through empty spots later in their career IMO.

On a personal note I have an 18 month old dog ready to start, hes marked a couple of spots over the summer and had a couple of rags on stuff thats been dug so far so hopefully he'll be going sooner rather than later.

My personal view is getting young terriers travelling is half the battle - I have run an experienced dog through to make sure nothing was at home, then allowed the young dog to travel, I find it builds confidence and I find doesn't impact the dog in making the grade.

[neil cooney 10,416]

Ive never understood what lads get from running pups through empty earths or pipes. I think the first time they go to ground they should mark it and enter off their own backs. Encouraging into empty places encourages wasted time running through empty spots later in their career IMO.

On a personal note I have an 18 month old dog ready to start, hes marked a couple of spots over the summer and had a couple of rags on stuff thats been dug so far so hopefully he'll be going sooner rather than later.

I know what you're saying RH but I personally like to see a young terrier running a few empty spots.

IMO the terrier that's most likely to waste time is one with heart that wont take no for an answer. If a young terrier is game and thinks every earth is holding it will spend a long time checking, checking and checking again thus wasting time.

A young terrier with a good nose that knows some earths hold and some don't will quickly check and tell you what's what.

Another thing I don't buy is checking earths by a quick sniff at the entrance and on you go. Unless it's a small place the only way to check a place properly IMO is for the terrier to travel it. I'm not talking about spending all day waiting for the terrier to emerge, I'm talking about in one hole out another, in one hole then another and on you go.

As I've said before IMO there's lads spend their whole lives walking by game because earths are not checked properly.

I've even seen lads leave a terrier in the vehicle while they'd run over to look at a place ?????????????????

In fact, I'd say if lads were honest with themselves most have done it. Ridiculous.

Also, a lot of lads don't realise that in hard weather and one or two other factors that quarry wont leave home for days or weeks at a time.

And sometimes the most dead, unused looking place can have someone at home.

Scent is a mystery and how a quick sniff at an entrance can verify that anywhere other than a puppy earth is holding or not is silly IMO.

Entering pups properly is not just about what they can do once they've found it's about ending up with the full package that you can bring anywhere and do a good professional job under a whole lot of different scenarios.

And making sure that the youngster learns that not every earth is active is a big part of their education IMO.

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

I totally agree with that marking theory Neil. Little spots with one or two holes will be full of scent if somethings at home. But like you say if theres a massive spot with loads of holes for the scent to escape out of and also maybe the animal has been still for a couple of days then the scent will be minimal and a dog could mistake it for being empty or not give the owner enough of a mark to take notice.

Edited November 6, 2015 by Rabbit Hunter

[man o kent 269]

I understand a dog running an earth that has fresh scent Neil, but I wouldn't want a dog running every multi holer/deeper spot I come across, to me that would be a frustrating experience. If you have a dog with a good nose, you have to trust him he knows what he's doin

[shovel 160]

 

 

Ive never understood what lads get from running pups through empty earths or pipes. I think the first time they go to ground they should mark it and enter off their own backs. Encouraging into empty places encourages wasted time running through empty spots later in their career IMO.

On a personal note I have an 18 month old dog ready to start, hes marked a couple of spots over the summer and had a couple of rags on stuff thats been dug so far so hopefully he'll be going sooner rather than later.

I know what you're saying RH but I personally like to see a young terrier running a few empty spots.

IMO the terrier that's most likely to waste time is one with heart that wont take no for an answer. If a young terrier is game and thinks every earth is holding it will spend a long time checking, checking and checking again thus wasting time.

A young terrier with a good nose that knows some earths hold and some don't will quickly check and tell you what's what.

Another thing I don't buy is checking earths by a quick sniff at the entrance and on you go. Unless it's a small place the only way to check a place properly IMO is for the terrier to travel it. I'm not talking about spending all day waiting for the terrier to emerge, I'm talking about in one hole out another, in one hole then another and on you go.

As I've said before IMO there's lads spend their whole lives walking by game because earths are not checked properly.

I've even seen lads leave a terrier in the vehicle while they'd run over to look at a place ?????????????????

In fact, I'd say if lads were honest with themselves most have done it. Ridiculous.

Also, a lot of lads don't realise that in hard weather and one or two other factors that quarry wont leave home for days or weeks at a time.

And sometimes the most dead, unused looking place can have someone at home.

Scent is a mystery and how a quick sniff at an entrance can verify that anywhere other than a puppy earth is holding or not is silly IMO.

Entering pups properly is not just about what they can do once they've found it's about ending up with the full package that you can bring anywhere and do a good professional job under a whole lot of different scenarios.

And making sure that the youngster learns that not every earth is active is a big part of their education IMO.

i know it would be ideal Neil if terriers would travel all earths but In my experience well seasoned terriers normally can tell if earth is holding or not from the entrance. Alot of them won't bother travel empty earths. If a terrier is a good worker but won't travel every earth would you keep him neil?