David.evans 5,323 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 That fm is a very true statment , by your mate but the leigion will take any boby , there not interested in your back ground ! and imo they havent got the disapline, or the command , or respect that the paras or royal marines have ! and our lads are a far better fighting force , no matter where they are sent even tho they hate each other , its a case of whos the best marines /paras in there eyes , but by fec when they meet up one things for sure blood will be spilt atb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,644 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Stiffy was on exercise last year with the French up in Northumberland, said they were a shower of shit.....walking about like tramps and sporting balaclavas !! Lol lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 I bet theres more than 1 walt on here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 I recon Trooperman is now under a different username and still on... Come on, own up.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 25,188 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 I've got a friend who is has a keen interest in 'special forces' both home and abroad, he says most of what the SAS get credited for is actually carried out by the SBS ? Not sure how true that is given that the SBS would mainly operate in and around water you would think . . He also reckons of all the elite services the maddest of all is the French Foreign Legion, "French"?!? Said I, but apprantly they're made up of mercenaries worldwide. A good friend of mine was in the Royal Marines ,,,he told me once that the sas often got credit for operations they had been on... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,644 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Me and TOMO were both in Nam.......his was NottingNAM and mine was DagenNAM !! Lol 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
*The*Field*Marshall* 674 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Ha ha . . Ah that would establish the notion then tomo . . And I've just remembered something I've read or heard elsewhere, about the Falklands and how our marines and paras had a bit of 'lively' competition with one another . . I've seen even the closest of friends develop a bit of needle when there is something at stake, especially pride and suppose there will always be bragging rights at stake as to who's the toughest etc . . Regardless of regiment, when it comes to our special forces, I am proud to be British. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 25,188 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Lol,,at wilf... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 25,188 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Ha ha . . Ah that would establish the notion then tomo . . And I've just remembered something I've read or heard elsewhere, about the Falklands and how our marines and paras had a bit of 'lively' competition with one another . . I've seen even the closest of friends develop a bit of needle when there is something at stake, especially pride and suppose there will always be bragging rights at stake as to who's the toughest etc . . Regardless of regiment, when it comes to our special forces, I am proud to be British. Same here ,,proud of them all,, By feck could I wind my mate up,,,just by telling him para were tougher than marines ,,he would bite straight away ,,,with comments like,,,,well our regiment never lost a man,,in the hole of the Irish troubles,,,not like para.. It was always interesting listening to his story's though,,,I remember him telling me,,,if they had to go from A to B,,,over some countryside,,,they would find the hardest rout,,,cos you could guarantee the IRA had boobytraped other things like footpaths or styles,,ect 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,656 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Ha ha . . Ah that would establish the notion then tomo . . And I've just remembered something I've read or heard elsewhere, about the Falklands and how our marines and paras had a bit of 'lively' competition with one another . . I've seen even the closest of friends develop a bit of needle when there is something at stake, especially pride and suppose there will always be bragging rights at stake as to who's the toughest etc . . Regardless of regiment, when it comes to our special forces, I am proud to be British. Things got a bit lively between the two SF units in the Falklands when an SAS patrol unintentionally shot up an SBS patrol! I think it's fair to say that historically there has always been a rivalry between the two as they both encroach on the others specialties and the commander of UK SFs is usually former SAS. Our SFs were pioneers of their trade, they were THE best in the world and indeed the envy of the world. I think now a days many other country's have caught up with some very professional units of their own but It's something we should definitely be proud of. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 If your interested there's a good book called Black Water written by SBS Don Camsell. He's quite critical of the SAS and I remember him being really pi**ed off the SAS got the majority of work on the Falklands, he believed even though they had a Boat Troop because it was a primarily an amphibious assault the gig should have been given to the SBS. He said after the Embassey incident the SAS were the apple of Margret Thatchers eye and got the best work. Edited to say opened my mail today to find I've been awarded another bar to my DFC. Happy days! Group Captain Seeker DFC (bar x2) DSO (bar) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,656 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) If your interested there's a good book called Black Water written by SBS Don Camsell. He's quite critical of the SAS and I remember him being really pi**ed off the SAS got the majority of work on the Falklands, he believed even though they had a Boat Troop because it was a primarily an amphibious assault the gig should have been given to the SBS. He said after the Embassey incident the SAS were the apple of Margret Thatchers eye and got the best work. Edited to say opened my mail today to find I've been awarded another bar to my DFC. Happy days! Group Captain Seeker DFC (bar x2) DSO (bar) Duncan Falconer's First into Action is a cracking read too. Some of the shit those 'swimmer canoeists' did in the 60s-80s was the stuff of Hollywood! I think you have to assume a bit of artistic license though, there's some confliction between reports of the same events. The SAS stuff has just never interested me as much.... I can't remember who's book it was but reading about the oil rig counter terrorism exercises in the North Sea really grabbed me. Also their secondments to The Det made for exciting reading. Edited October 22, 2015 by Born Hunter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 If your interested there's a good book called Black Water written by SBS Don Camsell. He's quite critical of the SAS and I remember him being really pi**ed off the SAS got the majority of work on the Falklands, he believed even though they had a Boat Troop because it was a primarily an amphibious assault the gig should have been given to the SBS. He said after the Embassey incident the SAS were the apple of Margret Thatchers eye and got the best work. Edited to say opened my mail today to find I've been awarded another bar to my DFC. Happy days! Group Captain Seeker DFC (bar x2) DSO (bar) Duncan Falconer's First into Action is a cracking read too. Some of the shit those 'swimmer canoeists' did in the 60s-80s was the stuff of Hollywood! I think you have to assume a bit of artistic license though, there's some confliction between reports of the same events. The SAS stuff has just never interested me as much.... I can't remember who's book it was but reading about the oil rig counter terrorism exercises in the North Sea really grabbed me. Also their secondments to The Det made for exciting reading. They aren't doing anything less Hollywood now. Insurgents in Iraq used to call the SAS "The bad men with the green eyes who come in the night". 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,656 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) If your interested there's a good book called Black Water written by SBS Don Camsell. He's quite critical of the SAS and I remember him being really pi**ed off the SAS got the majority of work on the Falklands, he believed even though they had a Boat Troop because it was a primarily an amphibious assault the gig should have been given to the SBS. He said after the Embassey incident the SAS were the apple of Margret Thatchers eye and got the best work. Edited to say opened my mail today to find I've been awarded another bar to my DFC. Happy days! Group Captain Seeker DFC (bar x2) DSO (bar) Duncan Falconer's First into Action is a cracking read too. Some of the shit those 'swimmer canoeists' did in the 60s-80s was the stuff of Hollywood! I think you have to assume a bit of artistic license though, there's some confliction between reports of the same events. The SAS stuff has just never interested me as much.... I can't remember who's book it was but reading about the oil rig counter terrorism exercises in the North Sea really grabbed me. Also their secondments to The Det made for exciting reading. They aren't doing anything less Hollywood now. Insurgents in Iraq used to call the SAS "The bad men with the green eyes who come in the night". I'm sure you're right mate. Reading snippets of what they get up to when attached to US JSOC in Iraq and Afghan. In their usual 'first into action' role it was an SBS squadron that secured the Bagram air base in Afghan which became the primary US base of operations. That kind of shows the level of respect our Tier 1 lads are given. It just takes a few decades for the MoD to lighten up publishing such stuff! LOL Edited October 22, 2015 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 If your interested there's a good book called Black Water written by SBS Don Camsell. He's quite critical of the SAS and I remember him being really pi**ed off the SAS got the majority of work on the Falklands, he believed even though they had a Boat Troop because it was a primarily an amphibious assault the gig should have been given to the SBS. He said after the Embassey incident the SAS were the apple of Margret Thatchers eye and got the best work. Edited to say opened my mail today to find I've been awarded another bar to my DFC. Happy days! Group Captain Seeker DFC (bar x2) DSO (bar) Duncan Falconer's First into Action is a cracking read too. Some of the shit those 'swimmer canoeists' did in the 60s-80s was the stuff of Hollywood! I think you have to assume a bit of artistic license though, there's some confliction between reports of the same events. The SAS stuff has just never interested me as much.... I can't remember who's book it was but reading about the oil rig counter terrorism exercises in the North Sea really grabbed me. Also their secondments to The Det made for exciting reading. They aren't doing anything less Hollywood now. Insurgents in Iraq used to call the SAS "The bad men with the green eyes who come in the night". I'm sure you're right mate. Reading snippets of what they get up to when attached to US JSOC in Iraq and Afghan. In their usual 'first into action' role it was an SBS squadron that secured the Bagram air base in Afghan which became the primary US base of operations. That kind of shows the level of respect our Tier 1 lads are given. It just takes a few decades for the MoD to lighten up publishing such stuff! LOL If you can get an inside track some of the ops videos are great stuff! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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