Hancock Dogs

[forest of dean redneck 12,022]

I had one for bit,bought as a young adult bitch ,before I joined on here beardie border x but it was real short,like a rough coated cattle dog great dog round the house,and caught and retrieved rabbits on the Lamp,but dog wouldn't react to me well,in fact I didnt have it long,and the orgianal person sent a young lad my way ,who bought it,and she responded better to him on the lamping trial than she did with me the time I had her,

A fella in the Forest of Dean had a 3/4 grey 1/4 border and he kept dog all its life,but I'm wondering if the dogs from 10 year ago were better than the ones now?

Isn't he just sourcing any old grey and collie then mating them

Though you know the exact breeding of the dog,the price and some of the pups looking thin and kept shut in pens would put me off.

[Chid 6,789]

You know the exact breeding of the dog....

But you don't unless you look at there pedigrees, hancocks advertise pups as half or 1/4 when there not,

[bob84 189]

I of one that was brought over to Ireland . It started out good enough but started fighting with everything and everyone bit his owner a few time the last time it went for a walk never to come back I think some of the dogs. Faults was the lads own doing. Tho as he's hard on dogs

[bonehead 92]

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well done lad very cleaver you learned how to do that on computer with your which computer jargon buster magazine you got free

[Omanyra 2,518]

Collie first crosses, dosnt matter who bred them are the same as any first cross, they will lack in various departments, ALL first crosses need something else added, even if it's another first cross of some kind...there will always be a percentage of first crossers that will not make the grade, more in collie first crossers IMO

[bird 10,014]

I don't know why folk are so hung up on getting a genuin 1/2 cross,,or3/4 ect,,,,so what if there's a bit of something else in there....

spot on tomo, you hit the nail on head with above . suppose what it is people me as well, think the more breeds in a lurcher, you got less chance of knowing what will come out in your pups,so we go for 1x or 3/4 bred, and that really can be any breed (pit,collie,etc ) maybe ive been lucky with my 2 1xs as both are good rabbit dogs,bryn a 1x colliexgrey bred local from a lad on here, (not hancock) he was always flat out on every rabbit he ran,never stalked one , when he was fecked he wouldnt run them,but to get to that he would have 40-50 runs,as i got alot of 30s with many a time,buck my 1x gsdxgrey same again another 1x will do 50-60 runs in a night,he got better stamina ,and more fire in his tank, he will tackle anything in front of him..again it comes back to 1x just 2 breeds,i have seen fair few lurcherx lurcher bred dogs just as good as my dogs, and i dont think really it makes much difference with more breeds in the mix, what more important i think is if the parents are good working dogs, not what breeds they are,and thats the only thing with hancocks dogs,they dont work never seen a rabbit etc . but a mate of mine had 1/4 collie b/b 3/4 grey which was great dog from hancock it was good on day hares,and good lamping rabbitsand foxes,very good dog 27in fawn dog, my old colliexgrey blazw was 1/2 hancock bred ok on rabbits good on foxes he was27in 3/8 collie 5/8 grey . with any lurcher you got to start with a 1x and take it from there,but i think you prob got better chance of good pups,if the parents have done somthing in the field , at least then they been tested on different quarry, otherwise its just a guessing game. but as said maybe ive been lucky because both my 1xs are good dogs and i know what they will do in field ,with hancocks you just dont really know, and £350 quid alot to pay for a dont know my 2 dogs cost bryn £40 quid,and buck £10 price of ferret ,thats all the lad wanted ,and what great£10 quid it was spent .

[suffolkpoacher 219]

Seen one run and it's put the brakes on but that's not saying there all bad

[bob84 189]

Did Hancock ever work any of the dog at anytime he breeds out of or does he just throw out litter after litter I read somewhere before he has a waiting list is this true

[Wales1234 5,682]

You breed enough your gone get some good stuff and some shit stuff and some inbertween !! Just luck ! But bird Bryn is just a rabbit dog though isn't he? I need more from this collie Cross of mine

[tiger82 43]

Get an all round Lurcher

[bird 10,014]

You breed enough your gone get some good stuff and some shit stuff and some inbertween !! Just luck ! But bird Bryn is just a rabbit dog though isn't he? I need more from this collie Cross of mine

yeh true he is thats all really thats why i had buck my 1x gsdxgrey,buck will do rabbits +other stuff . and if you get a pup from your bullx grey bitch ,it will be like buck and do alot more than what your colliex will .like said on your post your bullx bitch is very good animal if pups should be good'ns

[Wales1234 5,682]

That's my plan mate if got a blue bitch which is a collie type with bull her and good lamping and day time bitch so bringing my bull X pup on to take over her mother they in a few years time when the blue Bitch get to reirement either get s pup out of her or source the same type well that's my plan

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

A fella who used to be on here (B.S) has had a few Hancock dogs over 20 odd years and they all made the grade, one in particular was very good all round - before the ban came in.

 

Maybe he was just lucky. Who knows.

[forest of dean redneck 12,022]

You know the exact breeding of the dog....

But you don't unless you look at there pedigrees, hancocks advertise pups as half or 1/4 when there not,

Really,so in a nutshell it's just a collie lurcher?

I reckon that pup of yours would met Wales criteria ?

[Chid 6,789]

 

You know the exact breeding of the dog....

But you don't unless you look at there pedigrees, hancocks advertise pups as half or 1/4 when there not,

Really,so in a nutshell it's just a collie lurcher?

I reckon that pup of yours would met Wales criteria ?

Yes really Alex xs were sold as half breds when Alex as grey in him , the naughty boy stud dogs are more than half collie but pups out of them are sold as 1/4 breds ..

The pups have good breeding behind them, but the sire was never a teeth dog ..