jacknife 2,005 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 The thing is these crackpot leftards bang on constantly about human rights,freedom to choose (currently to choose our country to live in) so what about our rights,our freedom of choice?Not only the freedom to hunt as our ancestors did,but the simple basic right to choose what we eat IE meat, I like it, so some high and mighty wierdo telling me I would be better with a nut roast, can fu*k right off thankyou. We're supposed to be more civilised than 'murdering' our fellow inhabitants of Earth for our own selfish gluttony! I'm quite happy not to embrace such an enlightened level of civilisation! What can I say, I'm just a c**t! Oh is that it BH? I see,that makes two of us then its a shame they dont see the cultural genocide they are forcing on us currently as equally "uncivilised" corbyn's not forcing anything on us mate, the tories are in power atm...............they're all a bunch of traitorous fuckwits obviously Only problem is Corbyn could do real damage to this country way beyond anything the Tories or pre Corbyn Labour would do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 11,073 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 https://rotherhampolitics.wordpress.com/2015/09/22/star-exclusive-theft-of-council-laptop-with-names-and-addresses-of-abused-girls-kept-secret-from-rotherham-victims/ These left wing SWP type nut jobs are more a danger to individual towns and citys than the country as an whole imo. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Yes if that self hating quisling and his crackpot lackeys ever get in, we are well and truly fuc*ed, and you can kiss goodbye to your hunting,in whatever form you may enjoy it, he is a true enemy of the English people. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 The thing is these crackpot leftards bang on constantly about human rights,freedom to choose (currently to choose our country to live in) so what about our rights,our freedom of choice?Not only the freedom to hunt as our ancestors did,but the simple basic right to choose what we eat IE meat, I like it, so some high and mighty wierdo telling me I would be better with a nut roast, can fu*k right off thankyou. We're supposed to be more civilised than 'murdering' our fellow inhabitants of Earth for our own selfish gluttony! I'm quite happy not to embrace such an enlightened level of civilisation! What can I say, I'm just a c**t! Oh is that it BH? I see,that makes two of us then its a shame they dont see the cultural genocide they are forcing on us currently as equally "uncivilised" corbyn's not forcing anything on us mate, the tories are in power atm...............they're all a bunch of traitorous fuckwits obviously Only problem is Corbyn could do real damage to this country way beyond anything the Tories or pre Corbyn Labour would do corbyn will never get a chance to do anything mate will he, he's a f***ing joke like his shadow cabinet line up, more chance of mr Bean winning the world heavyweight title than corbyn forming a government Stop worrying about it and look at what the people who are in power are doing. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 What these cranks don't realise is that if we all turned veggie it would only lead to more damaging intensive farming to supply us with the protein we need to live ...They really are a bunch of short sighted fuk nuts! ... I wonder how much land it would take to supply the same amount of say soya protein as the protein that's in 1 cow. Atb kanny I think plant based foods are 4 times less intensive on the land than animal protein based foods, calorie for calorie. Whether we like it or not vegetarianism does seem better for the environment. That doesn't take into account the actual impact on the environment though, just how productive arable and livestock is in calories per acre. But that's all it has going for it, the health arguments based on life expectancy stats get blown to bits when analysed properly, correcting for all the other factors associated with the general meat eating demographic. Coming back to the environment, is it even conclusive that the methane produced from factory farming cattle has any significant effect on climate change? I dont buy that, from what I see with my own eyes the fields with cattle have far more flora and fauna I.e flys and bugs all over the cow shit, mushrooms and wild flowers growing, rabbits in the field, the arable land I go on is sterile in comparison and what animals you do see need to be controlled to stop them eating the crop. I reckon far more animals died to make your average bowl of shredded wheat than to put a steak on a plate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil cooney 10,416 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 You're right JD. Now and again I get asked to shoot rabbits and pigeons on fields of vegetables and while doing so I've often asked myself do any veggies that buy these vegetables know that animals died to ensure the crop reaches the market. It's the way the world works but these folk seem to be on a different planet. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,960 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) To be honest, I've always felt that pasture land is just as devoid of diversity. I'm happy to be proven wrong but I don't see any more diversity on livestock land than arable. The most important thing for diversity on any farm is management of set-a-side and hedges imo. That does wonders. Even if pasture is more diverse, if the 4-1 stat is true then technically you could free up 75% of arable land used to produce livestock feed for dedicated wildlife habitat. Like I said, I could buy into that argument. But it's far more complex than that. As it doesn't measure the actual environmental impact. Which we are all just speculating on. Or the many varied methods of meat production, such as hill farming and hunting. Edited September 25, 2015 by Born Hunter 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,864 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Don't underestimate them.....a green , labour snp coalition...... 1 in 6 born abroad and half a million a year still coming.... The political right can't unite at all.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 To be honest, I've always felt that pasture land is just as devoid of diversity. I'm happy to be proven wrong but I don't see any more diversity on livestock land than arable. The most important thing for diversity on any farm is management of set-a-side and hedges imo. That does wonders. Even if pasture is more diverse, if the 4-1 stat is true then technically you could free up 75% of arable land used to produce livestock feed for dedicated wildlife habitat. Like I said, I could buy into that argument. But it's far more complex than that. As it doesn't measure the actual environmental impact. Which we are all just speculating on. Or the many varied methods of meat production, such as hill farming and hunting. I'm with you on the set aside BH, for the best part of 10 years the local farmers left a fair old bit of set aside, the hare numbers were very good for our area, deer started to make an appearance, and all wildlife seemed to benefit in general, the last couple of years most of the set aside has been reclaimed, and numbers have dropped, hares in particular. You can't just take from the land, as humans we take to much, and waste to much, rethink needed imo? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,960 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 I've seen first hand the difference it makes. Great hare and partridge numbers for us this year particularly. But here it seems the setaside gets bigger every year, lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Don't underestimate them.....a green , labour snp coalition...... 1 in 6 born abroad and half a million a year still coming.... The political right can't unite at all.... That is true mate, the SNP are dictating things now judging by that called off vote on hunting, another call for a referendum vote though, that bitch wont stop until she gets what she wants, and probably for nothing more than her name going down in history as the woman who led Scotland to freedom, sad as f**k. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 I've seen first hand the difference it makes. Great hare and partridge numbers for us this year particularly. But here it seems the setaside gets bigger every year, lol. Its shrunk here for the last couple of years mate, and the difference is blatantly obvious. It's so easy for us to rip out hedgerows and cultivate land to the point where its very hostile to wildlife, its a big mistake imo, look at the Bee situation, wasps are like rocking horse shit round here to, almighty f**k up on the way, we never learn 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frann 882 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Where do they find these people? And I thought we voted for MPs to do as WE say? Or am I old fashioned Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 What gets me here more than anything is the fact that the vast majority of the population eat meat, I would suggest, the arrogance of the left shines through, what a set of self important cu*ts they really are, do they actually think people will stop eating meat because some pasty faced fat bitch wants to impose her twisted morals on us? what a set of complete wank*rs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,207 Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 What these cranks don't realise is that if we all turned veggie it would only lead to more damaging intensive farming to supply us with the protein we need to live ...They really are a bunch of short sighted fuk nuts! ... I wonder how much land it would take to supply the same amount of say soya protein as the protein that's in 1 cow. Atb kanny I think plant based foods are 4 times less intensive on the land than animal protein based foods, calorie for calorie. Whether we like it or not vegetarianism does seem better for the environment. That doesn't take into account the actual impact on the environment though, just how productive arable and livestock is in calories per acre. But that's all it has going for it, the health arguments based on life expectancy stats get blown to bits when analysed properly, correcting for all the other factors associated with the general meat eating demographic. Coming back to the environment, is it even conclusive that the methane produced from factory farming cattle has any significant effect on climate change? Rubbish mate. Livestock replenish the land with dung etc arable removes the nutrients and does not replace them. Every single ancient culture from the sumerians to Indus valley that intensively farmed the land for arable destroyed the land still to this day! Only modern chemicals and rotation techniques stave off the inevitable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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