Good God!!!!! Thats Going To Loose A Few Admirers For These 2

[oneredtrim 148]

Fancy doing your mrs in to shag your brother...thier old fella had obviously dabbled em when young.

[dare 1,103]

Reckon the film will be a success? Guessing if there has been some sort of interest all these years then people will want to see the film. Ill download it but trailer didnt impress me much parts of it seemed abit of a comedy. Just like tom hardy as an actor n give anything his in a chance. Someone should do a film on mps and their crimes lol not joking think it would have more affect than just reading it in the papers.

[gnasher16 31,310]

In one of Reggies books Gnash , he says he sparred with your old fella , did he ?

No.....they trained together a number of times at the old Benjamin Franklin club in Canning Town and a few other gyms but never sparred.....the ol boy was a light heavyweight who ended up at cruiserweight.......Reg was a lightweight

[gnasher16 31,310]

as for 'kiddy fiddlers'...well one of them was...as thats what led to their down fall

 

Al Capone better or worse?...i dont know...but he was certainly much much more successful...that was my point

Like i say i havent read all the books........which one was into children ?

 

Cant argue with your second point......not that i know Al Capone either we,ll just go on reputation alone shall we

Edited September 2, 2015 by gnasher16

[gnasher16 31,310]

 

Well you,ve obviously read more about them than me i have no idea about some of those stories all i know is what ive been told by people of the generation and the area who knew them well enough to have an opinion.......describing people i dont know as " horrible " is something id reserve for kiddy fiddlers but each to their own i guess we all walk our own path and knowing the area like i do and experiencing the very back end of the post war poverty in these parts i can see how folk of a certain standing would do whatever it took to obtain wealth at anothers expense as they were dog eat dog times that simply cant be compared to present day standards......i dont have a problem with that but trying to justify crookedly acquired wealth to straight acquired wealth is like trying to justify hunting to an anti its just a waste of time so nothing to talk about there.

 

" hardly Al Capone ".......what if they was though....worse or better ?

 

Edited to add.....very little was heard about them during the 70,s and early ,s.........it was when the first real wave of crime books came out that their following grew and media interest went up.

just read your edited to add..'Britains Gangland'...by Norman Lucas...published in 1969...a book i had as a kid...the whole Kray case was in it...it was all over the papers...and has continued to be through the 70's 80's 90's ect ect...everyone knows the Kray's story...

 

You dont think the explosion of crime books in the 90,s was coincidental with the first wave of them about the Krays/Mclean etc then ?......not the odd book or paper report......the whole wave of crime books/films over the last 20 years you put at the feet of the media and not who is buying them ?

Couldnt agree there mate.

Edited September 2, 2015 by gnasher16

[bird 10,014]

i can only go by todays media ,but im sure they wouldnt last a minute in todays society ,some 17 year old scrote would stick a bullet/knife in them for fun!

that's it , anybody shoot a gun , any young bloke wanting to make a name for him self more so on drugs , would take either of them gays out no prob , and they the krays wouldn't have been missed well not by me, and I was born in 1952 . my old chap was proper man had 4 kids , worked 60 hours a week 2 jobs, looking after us 4 kids , we came 1st him+ mom second that's a man to admire , not couple puffs tooled up with plenty back up , that's cowards .!!

[oneredtrim 148]

 

i can only go by todays media ,but im sure they wouldnt last a minute in todays society ,some 17 year old scrote would stick a bullet/knife in them for fun!

that's it , anybody shoot a gun , any young bloke wanting to make a name for him self more so on drugs , would take either of them gays out no prob , and they the krays wouldn't have been missed well not by me, and I was born in 1952 . my old chap was proper man had 4 kids , worked 60 hours a week 2 jobs, looking after us 4 kids , we came 1st him+ mom second that's a man to admire , not couple puffs tooled up with plenty back up , that's cowards .!!

 

 

They'd have got no sympathy vote for the twin trick on salford docks or trafford park in the '50's, i knew someone like your dad once bird, if you told him you were planning on burning his ma then you'd need a parachute lively...he reckoned the only thing hard about them types was getting em out of bed in a morning.

[gnasher16 31,310]

 

i can only go by todays media ,but im sure they wouldnt last a minute in todays society ,some 17 year old scrote would stick a bullet/knife in them for fun!

that's it , anybody shoot a gun , any young bloke wanting to make a name for him self more so on drugs , would take either of them gays out no prob , and they the krays wouldn't have been missed well not by me, and I was born in 1952 . my old chap was proper man had 4 kids , worked 60 hours a week 2 jobs, looking after us 4 kids , we came 1st him+ mom second that's a man to admire , not couple puffs tooled up with plenty back up , that's cowards .!!

 

Bird they wasnt out to make their families proud they was out for fame and fortune.....which for a couple of not very bright young lads they did a great job of.......some people are impressed by hard work but round here right or wrongly thats never really been a particularly sought after quality the way it is in some areas....having a bit of nouse is just as valued as hard work which is what i love about this area the hardworking success story is no more admired and respected than the man who can work a pound note straight or crooked....it means everyone has the same chance of success.

Edited September 4, 2015 by gnasher16

[bird 10,014]

 

 

i can only go by todays media ,but im sure they wouldnt last a minute in todays society ,some 17 year old scrote would stick a bullet/knife in them for fun!

that's it , anybody shoot a gun , any young bloke wanting to make a name for him self more so on drugs , would take either of them gays out no prob , and they the krays wouldn't have been missed well not by me, and I was born in 1952 . my old chap was proper man had 4 kids , worked 60 hours a week 2 jobs, looking after us 4 kids , we came 1st him+ mom second that's a man to admire , not couple puffs tooled up with plenty back up , that's cowards .!!

 

Bird they wasnt out to make their families proud they was out for fame and fortune.....which for a couple of not very bright young lads they did a great job of.......some people are impressed by hard work but round here right or wrongly thats never really been a particularly sought after quality the way it is in some areas....having a bit of nouse is just as valued as hard work which is what i love about this area the hardworking success story is no more admired and respected than the man who can work a pound note straight or crooked....it means everyone has the same chance of success.

 

fair enough , suppose as you say its how your brought up, and where your brought up. I was born/bred Wolverhampton , which is on outskirts of the black country , maybe difdernt mind set to cockneys mate. my old man worked at Goodyear's for 40 years, and did other jobs to get money for the 4 kids . funny thing is that he wasn't over big bloke 5ft 9in 11st all his life from kid through the war , but feck me was he a strong bloke for his size, I ve seen him with big bag of coal on his back, ride a feckin pushbike lol really tough.strong bloke, his dad was the same, and I am just bigger version 5ft 11 1 /2 12st 7 lb , I am naturally strong bloke , even before I done weights/karate . my old man used get me in the garden with the boxing gloves and have a knock with him, he never held back much well to the body lol. but you right different areas/places have different attitudes . true

[Welsh_red 4,996]

What i found odd in the article was they said it was pretty much inevitable they were both gay as they had the same genetic make up

 

Didnt realise being gay worked like that

[antg 1,805]

Reckon the film will be a success? Guessing if there has been some sort of interest all these years then people will want to see the film. Ill download it but trailer didnt impress me much parts of it seemed abit of a comedy. Just like tom hardy as an actor n give anything his in a chance. Someone should do a film on mps and their crimes lol not joking think it would have more affect than just reading it in the papers.

watched it last night. typical of this type of film. crap really.

http://www.solarmovie.cz/watch-the-rise-of-the-krays-2015-online.html

[Francie 6,368]

What i found odd in the article was they said it was pretty much inevitable they were both gay as they had the same genetic make up

 

Didnt realise being gay worked like that

It's doesn't pal, its a choice.

[Onlyworkmatters 1,584]

What I find odd is with everything thats going on in the world, the threat to the way we live coming from the 3rd world shitholes is that anyone today would give a f**k about a couple of dead gay nonces who have been an irrelevance for the best part of 50 years

[TOMO 28,406]

I will most likely watch the film,,as that hardy fella is a good actor,,,,

 

But I groaned when I herd the title was " legend",,,they don't deserve that title,,,,should have just called it Ronnie and Reggie

[gnasher16 31,310]

 

 

 

i can only go by todays media ,but im sure they wouldnt last a minute in todays society ,some 17 year old scrote would stick a bullet/knife in them for fun!

that's it , anybody shoot a gun , any young bloke wanting to make a name for him self more so on drugs , would take either of them gays out no prob , and they the krays wouldn't have been missed well not by me, and I was born in 1952 . my old chap was proper man had 4 kids , worked 60 hours a week 2 jobs, looking after us 4 kids , we came 1st him+ mom second that's a man to admire , not couple puffs tooled up with plenty back up , that's cowards .!!

 

Bird they wasnt out to make their families proud they was out for fame and fortune.....which for a couple of not very bright young lads they did a great job of.......some people are impressed by hard work but round here right or wrongly thats never really been a particularly sought after quality the way it is in some areas....having a bit of nouse is just as valued as hard work which is what i love about this area the hardworking success story is no more admired and respected than the man who can work a pound note straight or crooked....it means everyone has the same chance of success.

 

fair enough , suppose as you say its how your brought up, and where your brought up. I was born/bred Wolverhampton , which is on outskirts of the black country , maybe difdernt mind set to cockneys mate. my old man worked at Goodyear's for 40 years, and did other jobs to get money for the 4 kids . funny thing is that he wasn't over big bloke 5ft 9in 11st all his life from kid through the war , but feck me was he a strong bloke for his size, I ve seen him with big bag of coal on his back, ride a feckin pushbike lol really tough.strong bloke, his dad was the same, and I am just bigger version 5ft 11 1 /2 12st 7 lb , I am naturally strong bloke , even before I done weights/karate . my old man used get me in the garden with the boxing gloves and have a knock with him, he never held back much well to the body lol. but you right different areas/places have different attitudes . true

 

Im not saying the hard work road isnt to be admired it is......what i mean is the thing i always loved about this area is it doesnt matter how you get success just as long as you get it !.....whether its through hard work or robbing banks it will be equally respected as nobody round here comes out of Oxford and Cambridge so you make the best of what you have......plenty of lads ive known through the Repton club have gone onto great wealth with little or no education....people like a Cypriot lad ive known many years Andy Panayiotu started with nothing and went on to buy the most expensive house in Britain along with being one of the countries richest men through totally straight earned money.....or Ray Winstone a multi millionaire and world renowned actor.....likewise a few other folk who have gone onto amazing wealth within criminal circles im equally proud of all of them as this is one of the only areas ive ever come across where people dont judge you for what you have or how you got it.....just whether you have got it......the old 2 job hour working week doesnt impress folk round here the way it does in other places.