nans pat 2,575 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 My uncle in the other hand is a big gambling man mainly on horses and seems to have more luck than anyone I know and always wins decent money road racing cushty,sulkis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,851 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Billy Joe keeps his nut down and surrounds himself with good experienced people you dont hear him coming out with any " dinlo " nonsense. Maybe thats why nobody wants to talk about him eh ! Who you reckoning then billy joe or Andy lee, so your telling me Tyson doesn't surround him self with good experiencet people, but yes he does come out with dinlo stuff but I'm sure he does it on purpose to be a showman to sell himself No of course he hasnt surrounded himself with good experienced people he has surrounded himself with friends and family who have no experience in training top pro fighters !.....He,s a Manchester lad right ?.....in my opinion Fury and his advisers should of been busting down the doors of people like Joe Gallagher or Bob Shannon.......even Brian Hughes was still in the game when Fury turned pro but no he went with inexperienced family members and that could cost him. Comparing that to Billy Joe who i remember standing in Hoddesdon boys club with Frank Warren telling him he,s turning pro and Jimmy Tibbs is your trainer......Bills dad and everyone who knew him just accepted that succesful experienced people knew what was best for him. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,851 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Ah yeah listen boys everything here is taken on the chin I don't really care for anything I'm enjoying winding you all up encloding Mr jingles why do you think I changed my picture to fury, I'm not bothered to wins or who looses I just want to see an exiting good fight come the nightWhat a strange outlook.....if my close friend/family was fighting for a world heavyweight title id damn well care...............especially if i had " massive " amounts of money on it !!you always appear at the End of talks and put your few lines of bollocks out I dont think its bollocks to want a close friend/family to become heavyweight champion when ive got massive money on it......its just common sense to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Billy Joe keeps his nut down and surrounds himself with good experienced people you dont hear him coming out with any " dinlo " nonsense. Maybe thats why nobody wants to talk about him eh ! Who you reckoning then billy joe or Andy lee, so your telling me Tyson doesn't surround him self with good experiencet people, but yes he does come out with dinlo stuff but I'm sure he does it on purpose to be a showman to sell himself No of course he hasnt surrounded himself with good experienced people he has surrounded himself with friends and family who have no experience in training top pro fighters !.....He,s a Manchester lad right ?.....in my opinion Fury and his advisers should of been busting down the doors of people like Joe Gallagher or Bob Shannon.......even Brian Hughes was still in the game when Fury turned pro but no he went with inexperienced family members and that could cost him. Comparing that to Billy Joe who i remember standing in Hoddesdon boys club with Frank Warren telling him he,s turning pro and Jimmy Tibbs is your trainer......Bills dad and everyone who knew him just accepted that succesful experienced people knew what was best for him. In some sense I can understand where you are coming from and agree with you yes, however very experienced fighting family that's one thing you can not deny, it hasn't done him any harm yet has it. Billy's dad Tommy actually did have something to do with his training up until a point also but yes as you said let him go with more experienced people Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,851 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 In some sense I can understand where you are coming from and agree with you yes, however very experienced fighting family that's one thing you can not deny, it hasn't done him any harm yet has it. Billy's dad Tommy actually did have something to do with his training up until a point also but yes as you said let him go with more experienced people My brother used to be a driving instructor.......he wouldnt dream of thinking he could teach Lewis Hamilton anything about driving !.................Having experience of a brawl outside a caravan has no relevance whatsoever to a trainer of multiple World,European and British pro boxing champions mate sorry. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 In some sense I can understand where you are coming from and agree with you yes, however very experienced fighting family that's one thing you can not deny, it hasn't done him any harm yet has it. Billy's dad Tommy actually did have something to do with his training up until a point also but yes as you said let him go with more experienced people My brother used to be a driving instructor.......he wouldnt dream of thinking he could teach Lewis Hamilton anything about driving !.................Having experience of a brawl outside a caravan has no relevance whatsoever to a trainer of multiple World,European and British pro boxing champions mate sorry.The furys have all fought in the ring aswell , but your arguing with your own shadow here I've told you already I agree with you, and also told you if hasn't done Tyson or hughie any harm as yet has it ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,851 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Well if you agree what are you defending it for ?......how do you know it hasnt done any harm ?......i dont know what Furys potential is....do you ?.....i dont know what bad habits he has picked up....do you ?......i dont know how his trainer acts in a corner under extreme pressure....do you ?............what i do know is Fury is with an inexperienced trainer with no proven record training fighters....to me its a crime not to give a fighter the very best opportunities available to them top level sport is about stacking the odds in your favour...........if it wasnt we,d all have our dads and uncles training us ! Edited June 19, 2015 by gnasher16 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Well if you agree what are you defending it for ?......how do you know it hasnt done any harm ?......i dont know what Furys potential is....do you ?.....i dont know what bad habits he has picked up....do you ?......i dont know how his trainer acts in a corner under extreme pressure....do you ?............what i do know is Fury is with an inexperienced trainer with no proven record training fighters....to me its a crime not to give a fighter the very best opportunities available to them top level sport is about stacking the odds in your favour...........if it wasnt we,d all have our dads and uncles training us ! mayweathers oul fella pulls the strings dont he, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,851 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 mayweathers oul fella pulls the strings dont he, A former top pro who fought Sugar Ray Leonard you mean ?......from a family of former world champions..........slightly different to having a few brawls outside a caravan mate im sure you would agree 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 mayweathers oul fella pulls the strings dont he, A former top pro who fought Sugar Ray Leonard you mean ?......from a family of former world champions..........slightly different to having a few brawls outside a caravan mate im sure you would agree sugar ray,also fought dave boy green.was he worthy of a crack at the title. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 4,242 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 end the day it about making a few quid an I think fury do okthats all it is.mc flurry gives it all big,he wont care if he goes down,boxers still get paid if they get it wrong,unlike most jobs were in.whos the fools? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Well if you agree what are you defending it for ?......how do you know it hasnt done any harm ?......i dont know what Furys potential is....do you ?.....i dont know what bad habits he has picked up....do you ?......i dont know how his trainer acts in a corner under extreme pressure....do you ?............what i do know is Fury is with an inexperienced trainer with no proven record training fighters....to me its a crime not to give a fighter the very best opportunities available to them top level sport is about stacking the odds in your favour...........if it wasnt we,d all have our dads and uncles training us !if it stayed as it is an fury won the title, what would be your thoughts then, didn't calzaghae da train a 2 time champion an with out a doubt one the greatestEnzo did go on to train another 3 world champion though....just saying.? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,851 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 sugar ray,also fought dave boy green.was he worthy of a crack at the title. I have no idea who his trainer was....not really sure what you mean mate to be honest if it stayed as it is an fury won the title, what would be your thoughts then, didn't calzaghae da train a 2 time champion an with out a doubt one the greatest Nobodies saying it cant and doesnt happen....its just not putting the odds in your favour.....if your son was a top prospect wouldnt you want to give him the best possible chance with the best possible trainer ?.......its just common sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,851 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 (edited) Was nattering to little Brad Skeete a while back he said as kids on the England squads Fury was a shy kid quiet as a mouse and Billy Joe was the loudmouth....how the roles reversed he said listening to Fury now is either like watching a bad actor play a good part or a good actor play a bad part ........Fury,Degale,Saunders at the front Bradley at the back. Edited June 20, 2015 by gnasher16 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Well if you agree what are you defending it for ?......how do you know it hasnt done any harm ?......i dont know what Furys potential is....do you ?.....i dont know what bad habits he has picked up....do you ?......i dont know how his trainer acts in a corner under extreme pressure....do you ?............what i do know is Fury is with an inexperienced trainer with no proven record training fighters....to me its a crime not to give a fighter the very best opportunities available to them top level sport is about stacking the odds in your favour...........if it wasnt we,d all have our dads and uncles training us ! your such a tosspot you rally are, fury is showing signs of improving every fight so once agian I will say it's not doing him no harm, you are obviously a Jelous sad man who comes on here saying how expeinces he is with boxing taking another Joshua on the pads and what ever bollocks you've spouted you obviously wish you where half a man Peter fury is, maybe when he beats clinchko you will take some time to say oh I guess Peter did do a good job then but Probally still give your faults as your a bitter oldman go back to molesting your goldfinches Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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