Filas ?

[dare 1,103]

I like the boerboels, is a woman on youtube who keeps hers in best shape ive seen em in. If i was to ever get one i think id pay the money n have one imported from her.

I remember a bloke on my old area had a huge bull mastiff. Was different seeing the size of the thing in real life rather than photos.

[bird 10,014]

 

 

 

Most guard breeds end up going to shit imo because everyone wants a litter. Dog barks or growls at strangers and you can bet its bred. Can also bet your money its advert mentions what great guards the parents are. Never seen single masstif type dog that i like in the flesh. I guess i prefer slimmer agile looking dogs and any ive seen are fat fuckers that bark on the lead.

 

Saddly i reckon the malinois will go the same way. Everyone goes on about how great they are and in turn they become popular. More poorly dogs get bred until your miles away from what attracts people to the breed anyway. Not sure what the solution is tbh because as long as an idiot is willing to pay the money someone would have a litter there.

 

Have seen some nice bandogs online abroad. Seen adverts of bandogs here in the uk and the dogs just a mutt with all the poor example crosses theyve used.

that's true on the Bel Mals , there getting crap in them now, over breeding to any old dog just to make few bob. same with gsds whats in the country are 85% show crap, but if you get one from working lines from east Europe them gsds are 100% better dogs, fitter, stronger , with full on temps. and being honest a 80lb gsd male from that type breeding, would stop any bloke , the bitting power is terrific on these dogs, mals have very strong jaw, but these gsds is even more so . as I said on the post the only mastiff type I like is the Alano and these compared to all other mastiff types , are a lot smaller, healthier ,agile , more in size to a male gsd than big heavy mastiff type, but suppose if they came popular in time they be fooked up like most good breeds have been , as a guard alano quite good guard dog, but nothing I don't think can touch a well bred gsd from good working lines, there best out there

I've not much experience of mastiff type breeds to be honest but if I can add two more breeds to the list of healthy, working types that I have seen and done some gaurd work with. My first choice would be an Anitolian shepherd, someone I know has a couple on his farm never chained up and the older one must be nearly 9 now and still fit and active, the second is a Boerboel, ok I've only seen one of these but it's a serious bitch. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her but she goes jogging with her owner a couple of times a week and would defend him with her life.

I'm with bird for my choice of dog though, here's a couple of pics of our Czech working line GSD pup

 

great gsd pup that, and from them working lines it will be healthy and plenty of guts in it, they very different your run of the mill show bred gsd . I know Boerboel been bred for work, and if you get the right lines, and not from over here you could get good dog. but all big breeds (100lb) plus your going to get health probs, that's why Alano most fitter/agile of the mastiff types as the are norm (70-90lb) and that's plenty to stop a man, but your right the Kangal dog / A/S are healthy dogs bred to be out 24/7 guarding , and even there big dogs they are light compared to other mastiff types out there . My dog Buck 1x Alsatian x grey is 28in about 85lb 's he as massive strength he pull a 15st bloke down easy if he wanted, but he don't guard he loves people lol and likes other dogs I think he picked up the greys temp regards guarding, but in the field he got both temps he very full on . the gsd dam out of Czech working lines, his sire razzmatazz 29in greyhound good distance greyhound . yeh well bred gsd from above working lines you wouldn't need nought else

Buck 3 in august

 

[dytkos 17,917]

Just typed Fila into Google images, got a selection of dog fighting images up

 

Cheers, D.

[keepdiggin 9,567]

the dog handlers I talk to are staying away from the GSD now in their words they've not been the same in the last few years. They are choosing to work with dutch herder's more angile with a stronger bite.

[forest of dean redneck 12,009]

Just typed Fila into Google images, got a selection of dog fighting images up

Cheers, D.

Fila brasilero ? Horrible fugly looking ,like cross between a bloodhound and overweight mastiff.

[dare 1,103]

Just typed Fila into Google images, got a selection of dog fighting images up

 

Cheers, D.

probably because they come under the dda? cant see these doing much size of em theyd lack wind and be tired in 5 minutes. If they was any good at anything id imagine theyd be over here and owned in large numbers.

[BGD 6,437]

 

Just typed Fila into Google images, got a selection of dog fighting images up

Cheers, D.

Fila brasilero ? Horrible fugly looking ,like cross between a bloodhound and overweight mastiff.

That's basically what they are, bred from bloodhounds, bulldogs and mastiffs brought over by the colonialists to guard their plantations and track escaped slaves.

[bird 10,014]

the dog handlers I talk to are staying away from the GSD now in their words they've not been the same in the last few years. They are choosing to work with dutch herder's more angile with a stronger bite.

that's it mate , they are only using gsd's if from East Europe lines, as the rest are not good enough unhealthy poor temps . the Dutch shepherd are very good dogs, they not been ruined like gsd have and some bel mals are going that way as well, I ve seen a dutch/herder they are like you say very agile with strong jaw and of stocky build , very good dogs

[keepdiggin 9,567]

I don't know much about them Ray to be honest I place them, gsd's and mal's as one dog tbh but i'm no expert lol

[bird 10,014]

 

the dog handlers I talk to are staying away from the GSD now in their words they've not been the same in the last few years. They are choosing to work with dutch herder's more angile with a stronger bite.

that's it mate , they are only using gsd's if from East Europe lines, as the rest are not good enough unhealthy poor temps . the Dutch shepherd are very good dogs, they not been ruined like gsd have and some bel mals are going that way as well, I ve seen a dutch/herder they are like you say very agile with strong jaw , good drive, and of stocky build , very good dogs

 

[bird 10,014]

I don't know much about them Ray to be honest I place them, gsd's and mal's as one dog tbh but i'm no expert lol

I know a bloke who trains RAF dogs, and helps pick the right type of pups for the police work, he said the same regards gsd s that they are very poor in this country, and you got get then from E/E lines to get good ones. he got bel mals he like them b ut said the same that the going bit like gsds, with poor health/temps, but he liked dutch ./herders as from what ive said there not ruined as yet, hope they don't go the same ways as the other 2 breeds have, and are going

[BGD 6,437]

Can't see the Dutch herder going the same way as gsds and mals, their breed club is top notch really focusing on working ability, they even allow certain outcrosses from time to time to bring fresh blood in (they've had a fair bit of bulldog infused over the years, where the brindle comes from).

[bird 10,014]

Can't see the Dutch herder going the same way as gsds and mals, their breed club is top notch really focusing on working ability, they even allow certain outcrosses from time to time to bring fresh blood in (they've had a fair bit of bulldog infused over the years, where the brindle comes from).

I didn't know that , thanks any more info on them pm me, would like to have read up on them thanks

[Daniel cain 48,124]

I can't see the point in these big mad dogs, imagine doing time because your big aggressive dog had killed some poor f****r. Any old dog can be a burglar deterrent and the usual guard breeds are more than enough so these aggressive mastiff types are ott.

the right presa will keep your terriers and lurcher safe from the scum that think it's ok to take what s not theirs.they have their uses believe me.atb

[gnipper 6,741]

 

I can't see the point in these big mad dogs, imagine doing time because your big aggressive dog had killed some poor f****r. Any old dog can be a burglar deterrent and the usual guard breeds are more than enough so these aggressive mastiff types are ott.

the right presa will keep your terriers and lurcher safe from the scum that think it's ok to take what s not theirs.they have their uses believe me.atb

I don't doubt for a minute they have their uses mate I know they have, the things that worry me are if they managed to get out and get hold of some poor fecker that wasn't after pinching anything.