cocpops 19 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Out on a permission last night the first time in months. I've been giving it a rest as the numbers just aren't there anymore. Through the summer I hardly seen any so left them alone, hoping their numbers would recover. There's been touch of maxi. Anyway I did see a few but they were very alert and skittish. I was using NV my buddy was using a lamp. We were a fair distance apart, When I noticed his light searching my area. Thinking that's a bit odd started over. The light went off and a few minutes later I realised it wasn't my mate. It was a bloody shooter who scarpered. I watched him cut away over fields into the distance. Tried to head him off but he must have knew we were following as he dissappeared. ! I suspected this was happening as the past 2 years aside from the lack of rabbits their reaction to a lp is incredible. Any suggestions how to deal with poachers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RIP.JD 21 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 You could try trail cameras, since NV has come along I'm sure a few of my permissions are having visitors. I've found random dead rabbits which haven't been picked up.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,890 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Get there before em is about all you can do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plummerterrier 291 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Yeah leave him alone and find your own land to poach. Jojes aside Just tell the land owner to keep an eye out. Make the guy poaching sound bad ie shot at a fox with air rifle or something Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tsteve9999 456 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I should think he has permission on a nearby farm and is roaming a bit, getting caught somewhere you shouldn't be with a firearm is armed trespass, not many would just rock up somewhere and try it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobcullen79 1,495 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Yeah leave him alone and find your own land to poach. Jojes aside Just tell the land owner to keep an eye out. Make the guy poaching sound bad ie shot at a fox with air rifle or something "Make him sound bad" So basically fit him up ffs. If its not going your way, lie. Showing your true colours... If you want to sort out the poaching coco, get up there a bit more regular. Knock up a couple of signs, whatever, make your presence felt. You probably got visitors because they`ve not seen anyone else on the land and thats probably one of the biggest invites. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rabbit demon 301 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Very hard to catch them, any time any of my mates were caught poaching was because the keeper or bailiffs ended up hiding in bushes and literally had to sneak about in the dark (sometimes day) so they could catch them. Persistance, patients and time that could be spent doing something more productive. Is it worth it for a couple of rabbits though ?... You have a added danger where the guys armed and you dont know him or what he'll do if you try nab him. id say just report it to land owner and let him deal with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
torchey 1,243 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Out on a permission last night the first time in months. I've been giving it a rest as the numbers just aren't there anymore. Through the summer I hardly seen any so left them alone, hoping their numbers would recover. There's been touch of maxi. Anyway I did see a few but they were very alert and skittish. I was using NV my buddy was using a lamp. We were a fair distance apart, When I noticed his light searching my area. Thinking that's a bit odd started over. The light went off and a few minutes later I realised it wasn't my mate. It was a bloody shooter who scarpered. I watched him cut away over fields into the distance. Tried to head him off but he must have knew we were following as he dissappeared. ! I suspected this was happening as the past 2 years aside from the lack of rabbits their reaction to a lp is incredible. Any suggestions how to deal with poachers. The lack of rabbits is nothing to do with you and your night vision then lol..... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 It seems every body is doing it these days local town is full of people that aren't even into feildsports properly with air rifles shooting rabbits every night for pure fun, there is nothing about atall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmad riley 1,337 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Them NV are good but they take the sport out of it and will wipe good populations out. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Yeah we get them peasants with their lurchers Just sit and wait then put a big bright light on them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Just a question, followed by a word of caution, what are you going to do if you catch/confront him? Dont forget you will be remonstrating with a man with a firearm possibly, who you (I assume) dont know, make damn sure you have another witness with you, and film him, even if your plan is just to tell him not to come back or the police will be called, you really do have very limited authority, even though the man is committing armed trespass on your land, even a keeper only has the authority to escort a poacher from his employers land, a confrontation between two armed men in the dark is not the best way to spend an evening, nor is spending the night in a cell answering a charge of threats to kill with a firearm, film any and all conversations you have with him, this in 99.9% of cases should put off a wandering neighbour, as you have evidence of armed trespass against him. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haymin 2,465 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 He must be a good poacher good in him , I'm sure he was buzzing when he seen yous ?? as Mr Cullen says put up signs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Just a question, followed by a word of caution, what are you going to do if you catch/confront him? Dont forget you will be remonstrating with a man with a firearm possibly, who you (I assume) dont know, make damn sure you have another witness with you, and film him, even if your plan is just to tell him not to come back or the police will be called, you really do have very limited authority, even though the man is committing armed trespass on your land, even a keeper only has the authority to escort a poacher from his employers land, a confrontation between two armed men in the dark is not the best way to spend an evening, nor is spending the night in a cell answering a charge of threats to kill with a firearm, film any and all conversations you have with him, this in 99.9% of cases should put off a wandering neighbour, as you have evidence of armed trespass against him.You might want to look up on what authority a keeper has mate cause as it stands you are wrong. http://www.cumbria.police.uk/Admin/uploads/attachment/images/Advice_and_Info/Buttons/Wildlife_Crime/Wildlife_Crime_Documents/Poaching.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 sometimes your better saying nothing if there not much about he move on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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