Waz 4,293 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 An insert or inset is one that goes fits snug inside the hearth, designed to chuck the heat out through the glass. ie you dont really see the sides top. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cookiemonsterandmerlin 145 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 If the liner is going up an existing chimney I can't see it being an issue? It wont be in contact with anything flammable. chimneys in had a coal fire in it till a few year ago ... You should still consider a liner though mate. I know opinion differs but the basic argument behind the liner is that because burners work at about % efficiency whereas open fires wonly work at about 20% efficiency, a open fire has % of it's heat going up the chimney which takes the smoke out very efficently, the burner only has 20% of it's heat going up the chimney so the smoke can condense in such a big space causing bad tar build up in the chimney that can literally run down the inside of the chimney after build up. By fitting a liner it reduces the inner volume stopping the smoke condensing. Plus alot of folk burn all sorts of shit pallets and wet wood which constricts the flue with soot tar over time 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Would an insert stove not do you??? passThey just fit in the original fire opening , mate fitted one without having to do anything other than slide it in An insert or inset is one that goes fits snug inside the hearth, designed to chuck the heat out through the glass. ie you dont really see the sides top. might do the job .. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 to fit in here if I can... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) looks like an insert might be an option.. Edited November 20, 2013 by the_stig Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 11,393 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Look at the french enameld burners if you want something that looks really nice stig or go scandinavian like Jotal if you want to be really snuggly warm. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Look at the french enameld burners if you want something that looks really nice stig or go scandinavian like Jotal if you want to be really snuggly warm. saw one go through the auction few week ago nice looking thing two-tone enamel loads of detail on it .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
herdwick 52 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Had an inset one of these fitted about 20 years ago. http://www.charnwood.com/default.aspx Heats the room and does 11 radiators as well 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,293 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Getting woodburner and rad system putting in the new house, bloke fitting it recommends Charnwood, cant get to a place that sells them for a couple of weeks. They look good though. How much wood do you get through each winter? & does it do your hot water? If so how do you heat water come summer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,794 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Getting woodburner and rad system putting in the new house, bloke fitting it recommends Charnwood, cant get to a place that sells them for a couple of weeks. They look good though. How much wood do you get through each winter? & does it do your hot water? If so how do you heat water come summer? have an immersion heater fitted to your hot water tank 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MIK 4,763 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 I had a similar cast surround on my fire stig with a wood burner in front of it but ripped it all out and built a new slate fireplace and wood burner got the stove and flue from the link bellow http://www.gr8fires.co.uk/?gclid=CK38ppug9LoCFQjKtAod-WQAfg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jf1970 328 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 i got this stove 5 yrs ago, it's a 12kw and heats 11 radiators, all in it cost me just over 3k, best thing i ever got. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sussex 5,803 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Make sure when you buy the woodburner you get a thermal efficient one , the cheap ones don't seal properly & burn a stack of wood , a decent stove ie ,clearview , jotal , morsqe,wlll set you back a grand +flue +fitting .2.5~3k will be my guess .Don't buy a cheap one it will cost you dear !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kruby01 114 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 I have just fitted mine myself into my static, I was recommended a 3kw but I bought a 6.5 as I thought I'd rather it be too big than too small. I also wanted it big enough to be able to chuck a decent sized log on. It was piss easy to install myself however its only a 2m flue and cost me around £600 all in. That was seriously shopping around as I was on a budget. Best thing ive bought for a while though . Its blowing a gale outside and its 1degree but I'm sat by the fire warm as toast . Its definitely worth doing if you can and yer they might cost a bit to set up but then think there is plenty of free wood about so you will have a minimal heating bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepitcovert 842 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Fitted plenty of these and seen plenty DIY disasters above 5k the room needs venting, i would always fit a flue liner as tar and creosote can run down the back of the flue and make a right mess, common fault is people often fit the liner upside down which causes the residue to run down the outside of the liner, always fit a nose cone and rope to the liner when installing will save you no end of grief, fitting register or closure plate can sometimes be tricky. but not beyond the ability of the average DIYer. Anyway good luck with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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