The Mccanns

[gonetoearth 5,144]

This was a chance abduction, carried out by a gang of sneak thieves going from resort to resort plundering apartment blocks, Spain Portugal its rife , they fell upon this child a took her, my fear is were she has ended up.

[gnasher16 29,664]

In bad taste as it is to compare these sort of things......when people call out for the Mcanns blood i cant help wondering whats worse........allowing a 5 year old girl with cerebral palsey to wander round the streets in broad daylight......or leaving a 3 year old alone in her bedroom at night ?

 

April Jones parent/s had the nations heartfelt sympathies ( and rightly so ) after she was abducted and killed.......nobody was calling for the parents blood then...why not ?

 

The only reason i can see that people are so fired up over the Mcanns but wasnt fired up over April Jones.......is success/wealth.

[gnasher16 29,664]

I can't believe there's people defending the mccanns leaving three children under the age of three unsupervised while they went for a meal,

 

I can only speak for myself but im not defending the Mcanns mistake................im defending the right to make a mistake without being hung for it.

[RubyTex 1,957]

I can't believe they're going after people for having an opinion...should they not be using that money wisely ie looking for their lost daughter?? More interested in their own image than anything else...

[MoChara 1,600]

 

Im not a parent so wont comment on what "acceptable" parenting is..

 

But one thing i thought it strange was when the father went up to check he noticed the door was more open than what they had left it, i know he probably thought it was a draugh or the wee one might have got up and done it, but if it were me id of had a look all over the place to find what done it - espec knowing that they had shut the window in their bedroom and closed shutters and curtains. Id say it is more than possible he would have found either the window open or even someone in the apartment somewhere. But thats just my opinion, put in the situation things may be different from person to person.

 

 

yeh we all things like it now, but wonder how many parents have left there kids what they thought was safe and not far from them.Ive got a son 26 now, but when he was about the same age we went to spain for a week Hols.What we did was go out for a meal with him all 3 of us, then walk about in the night me carrying him, go back to digs, and we sat on the balcony having few beers, and he was in our room so we (never) left the Hotel , that what we did all week.My wife would not leave him on his own,The Mcann's done wrong, to leave all there kids and go for the meal, but who would have thought back then this would have happened.? Ifeel sorry for them they did wrong, but maybe other people have done the same and (got away with it .)

 

Very true bird. Like i said it vary's from person to person on what they would do/done in the same scenario. And again wont comment on the parental view of things cause im not a parent.

But nail on the head there saying other folk get away with similar, every single day.

 

 

Also have to put forward i do agree with gnasher on the april jones/similar cases post. Nobody wants/likes to say it, but what he pointed out is the truth.

[james revie 2]

three kids left alone in a hotel room while the parents have a meal and drink with there friends. unbelivable. they should be charged with negligence..

[Cleanspade 3,322]

 

I can't believe there's people defending the mccanns leaving three children under the age of three unsupervised while they went for a meal,

 

I can only speak for myself but im not defending the Mcanns mistake................im defending the right to make a mistake without being hung for it.

 

if you left children of that age with a child minder and the same happened would you still take the same stance.

[Cleanspade 3,322]

 

I can't believe there's people defending the mccanns leaving three children under the age of three unsupervised while they went for a meal, they were checking every 30-45 mins fair enough but anything can happen in that time. It doesn't matter if there doctors or stack shelves at Tesco it's just not acceptable I can't get my head round why they would do it especially when there was a night crèche just yards down the road, at the end of the day if them bairns were being supervised madalinne would still be with her mam and dad today.

Agreed. It is a fact that if they had left their kids alone in this country and gone out on the drink, or even for a short trip to the supermarket.. and the kids had been found "home alone" they'd have been arrested and charged with child neglect, and their children removed from them. I know this.

 

The argument that the child could have been kidnapped whilst the parents were asleep, really does not hold up, this is very different and is unlikely to have happened if they had not left their children alone, unsupervised. As has already been said, leaving 3 very young children alone, in a strange place, in a strange country, to go elsewhere and eat and drink with friends really is not what normal capable responsible parents do. Anything could have happened to them, and unfortunately for Madeleine it did.

 

I have thought that they were guilty from day one, and nothing has changed to alter my opinion. Its just that the police can't yet prove it.

 

says it all for me

[WILF 44,332]

In bad taste as it is to compare these sort of things......when people call out for the Mcanns blood i cant help wondering whats worse........allowing a 5 year old girl with cerebral palsey to wander round the streets in broad daylight......or leaving a 3 year old alone in her bedroom at night ? April Jones parent/s had the nations heartfelt sympathies ( and rightly so ) after she was abducted and killed.......nobody was calling for the parents blood then...why not ? The only reason i can see that people are so fired up over the Mcanns but wasnt fired up over April Jones.......is success/wealth.

I feel the same about both sets of parents myself !

[Cleanspade 3,322]

 

I can't believe there's people defending the mccanns leaving three children under the age of three unsupervised while they went for a meal,

 

I can only speak for myself but im not defending the Mcanns mistake................im defending the right to make a mistake without being hung for it.

 

putting tea in the coffee pot is a mistake. what they did i would call negligence.

[SUNDAYBAIN 19]

I feel sorry for them they made a mistake in my eyes but what a f*****g price they paying, no parent deserves that...........any crime involving taking or doing anything with kids should be punishable by death or in a cell til they drop no ifs or buts.........lets just hope with this new investigation she,s found safe and well

+1 Torchey

[the_stig 6,614]

over 1,000 calls and e mails after last nights appeal and same name cropped up a few times, programme to be shown in Holland and Germany ..

[mackay 3,054]

Oh, how this country has changed. Once it was perfectly acceptable to leave your children in a chalet and go to the club and drink all night. It was done all the time in Billy's Brothel they had workers that would do a round of the chalets with children in every half an hour or so just to make sure that the children were alright.

 

How times have changed.

 

TC

You are exactly right, things have changed and any sane person knows that.

That's also why it's even more unbelievable they left their kids alone, nearly as unbelievable as that folks are defending them.

[Tiercel 6,986]

 

Oh, how this country has changed. Once it was perfectly acceptable to leave your children in a chalet and go to the club and drink all night. It was done all the time in Billy's Brothel they had workers that would do a round of the chalets with children in every half an hour or so just to make sure that the children were alright.

 

How times have changed.

 

TC

You are exactly right, things have changed and any sane person knows that.

That's also why it's even more unbelievable they left their kids alone, nearly as unbelievable as that folks are defending them.

 

Most people are not defending them, just stating that we all make mistakes in our lives, and they seem to be paying more than most for theirs.

 

TC

[paulus 26]

100 REASONS WHY THE PARENTS BELONG IN JAIL 1. Did they use the babysitting service provided? NO 2. Did they use any listening devices? NO 3. Did they leavethree children under 4 alone while going out drinking? YES 4. Did they do this every night? YES 5. Did they,under British law,endanger Maddie? YES 6. In the UK is significant harm a form of child abuse? YES 7. Is significant harm used by the UK courts in child abuse cases? YES 8. Does leaving the children as they did qualify under these rules ? YES 9. Did Kate sit writing timelines instead of searching for Maddie? YES 10. Are the frequent checks by the Tapas group challenged by other witnesses? YES 11. Was the bedroom withing sight of where they sat? NO 12, Were they within earshot? NO 13. Did anyone other than Tanner see any abductor? NO 14. Has anyone come up with a credible abductor? NO 15. Is there any evidence of an abduction? NO 16. Were the shutters in the room tampered with? NO 17. Did Kate say the shutters were tampered with? YES 18. Did Kate change her story to saying the door was unlocked? YES 19. Was the door unlocked on any other night? NO 20. Is there any physical evidence at all of a break in? NO 21. Is there any physical evidence of another party being in the room? NO 23. Were the McCann's told not to inform the media? YES 24. Were they told it might harm the chances of finding Maddie alive? YES 25. Were the media informed by a McCann family member? YES 26. Were specially trained British dogs brought in to search the apartment ? YES 27. Did they find anything? YES 28. Have these dogs been successful in over 200 cases? YES 29. Do sniffer dogs lie? NO 30. Do the specially trained dogs get confused by other smells? NO 31. Did they find cadaver(dead body) scent in the apartment? YES 32. Did they find blood? YES 33. Did they find cadaver scent behind the sofa? YES 34. On the child's toy? YES 35. In a cupboard in the room? YES 36. Did they find cadaver scent on Kate's clothes? YES 37. Did Kate explain this by saying she had examined dead bodies before holiday? YES 38. Is there any record of her doing so? NO 39. Has anyone come forward to say they saw her doing so? NO 40. Was the hire car rented after Maddie disappeared ? YES 41. Were tests done on DNA found in the car? YES 42. Did the dogs alert to the hire car? YES 43. Is a billion to one odds that it may be someone else's DNA? YES 44. Were the doors and boot left open to get rid of the smell in the car? YES 45. Did the parents explain it away as rotting meat? YES 46. Smelling due to taking rubbish to the tip in the hire car? YES 47. Smelling due to dirty nappies in the hire car? YES 48. Smell due to sea bass in the hire car? YES 49. Did the parents say the dogs were wrong? YES 50. Do you need tons of excuses if the dogs are just plain wrong? NO 51. Have the dogs ever been wrong? NO 52. Did Kate & Gerry flee Portugal? YES 53. Did they hire extradition lawyers? YES 54. Did the McCann's hire libel lawyers to gag anyone with a different view? YES 55. Did the government lend spin doctor Clarence Mitchell to the parents? YES 56. Dio spin doctors twist the truth for a favourable outcome? YES 57. Are they paid to do this? YES 58. Did the McCann's set up a fund in order to search for Maddie? YES 59. Did they use the money donated for anything other than searching? YES 60. Do the parents have a media monitoring unit? YES 61. Are there internet trolls helping the parents to quash getting at the truth? YES 62. Have the Portuguese police been portrayed as incompetent? YES 63. Did they look at all aspects of the case? YES 64. Did they conclude any abduction took place? NO 65. Did they conclude that Maddie was dead and the parents responsible? YES 66. Are there two British investigations into Maddie being missing? YES 67. Are they investigating ALL aspects of the case? NO 68. Have they been told by the government to focus on abduction only? YES 69. Have they come up with any evidence of an abduction? NO 70. Have they come up with any credible suspects? NO 71. Have they questioned the tapas group or parents over the case? NO 72. Have the parents made millions from Maddie being missing? YES 73. Did Kate write a book mentioning torn genitalia that the twins might read? YES 74. Did Gerry have his wallet stolen at Waterloo station as he claimed? NO 75. Does the CCTV footage from that day bear out his claims? NO 76. Did the Portuguese police ask British government for medical records? YES 77. Were they handed over? NO 78. Did they ask for bank statements? YES 79. Were they handed over ? NO . Did they ask for mobile phone records? YES 81. Were they handed over? NO 82. Have the media printed the McCann version of events? YES 83. Are the media intimidated by threats of libel? YES 84. Have the parents admitted they are responsible for Maddie's disappearance? NO 85. Have the parents faced any criminal charges to date? NO 86. No charges for manslaughter? NO 87. For neglect? NO 88. Did the McCann's say they would take a polygraph(lie detector test) ? YES 89. Did the McCann "people" contact Don Cargill head of polygraph studies?YES 90. Did the McCann's tell the world they would take one to prove innocence? YES 91. Have they taken one in the 2'000+ days since saying they would? NO 92. Did the parents impose a list of conditions for taking one? YES 93. Did Don Cargill say the list was "impossible to satisfy"? YES 94. Did Don Cargill state "They had no intention of taking one"? YES 95. Did Clarence Mitchell say they were innocent and did not need to do one? YES 96. IS Amaral on trial because he wrote a book stating the facts of the case? YES 97. Is it a proper account of the police investigation ? YES 98. Have the McCann's fought desperately to have this book banned? YES 99. Is it banned? NO 100. Is maddie missing because of the actions of the parents? YES