C Hall 552 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Love the half x bulls but the best allrounders Ive used for the type of hunting I prefer are lurchers with about a quarter bull and other breeds in the mix Guess I would call myself a bull x fan not a convert though Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 paulus.i think you are right about to much bull in some cases .this cross is ideal for strenghtening weak lurcher strains.i think in a hailf cross bull you may well get some problems.but it would not occur in every case .quarter bull to quarter collie to hailf greyhound ;quarter bull to quarter saluki hailf greyhound .something on those lines would give you the build and restrengthining needed;to be honest i have not seen any first x bull xg run so i couldnt say if some lack the required speed.it would be intresting to hear from owners of this cross brains stamina speed problems etchow many times have you herd or read on here of a heavily saturated bull x running into something verses how many collie crosses do you read or hear of doing the same thing you also need to add whippet to your mentioned crosses to make up for whats lacking in the mix What will the whippet add? Yapping or shortness of breath? :laugh: Even thinner coat whippets have qualities that no other breed can bring to the mix Quote Link to post
C Hall 552 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 What will the whippet add? Yapping or shortness of breath? :laugh: A very silly statment Working whippets have or did have a lot to offer the lurcher, especially the whippets that were around 20 plus year ago Quote Link to post
C Hall 552 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 What will the whippet add? Yapping or shortness of breath? :laugh: A very silly statment Working whippets have or did have a lot to offer the lurcher, especially the whippets that were around 20 plus year ago 1 Quote Link to post
Westy76 546 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 paulus.i think you are right about to much bull in some cases .this cross is ideal for strenghtening weak lurcher strains.i think in a hailf cross bull you may well get some problems.but it would not occur in every case .quarter bull to quarter collie to hailf greyhound ;quarter bull to quarter saluki hailf greyhound .something on those lines would give you the build and restrengthining needed;to be honest i have not seen any first x bull xg run so i couldnt say if some lack the required speed.it would be intresting to hear from owners of this cross brains stamina speed problems etc how many times have you herd or read on here of a heavily saturated bull x running into something verses how many collie crosses do you read or hear of doing the same thing you also need to add whippet to your mentioned crosses to make up for whats lacking in the mix What will the whippet add? Yapping or shortness of breath? :laugh: Even thinner coat Most of the bull x's you get out with kranky have whippet in there breeding and baw I'd totally agree with you I'd prefer better jackets on them which is why I can see the benifit of using Wheaton over bull but I'm happy with mine. Quote Link to post
troter58 1,711 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 bull x not for me give me a lurcher bred dog do same job ie catch the same but a bit faster and less assell watch the crew vids turn bad lose a lot on cover where a big lurcher would catch j m o on this and i have ran bull xs 20 years ago they blow up no wind in the tank ok around a hole .atb 1 Quote Link to post
Huwidge 69 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 bull x not for me give me a lurcher bred dog do same job ie catch the same but a bit faster and less assell watch the crew vids turn bad lose a lot on cover where a big lurcher would catch j m o on this and i have ran bull xs 20 years ago they blow up no wind in the tank ok around a hole .atb you obviously had a sh*t dog then. 2 Quote Link to post
troter58 1,711 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 bull x not for me give me a lurcher bred dog do same job ie catch the same but a bit faster and less assell watch the crew vids turn bad lose a lot on cover where a big lurcher would catch j m o on this and i have ran bull xs 20 years ago they blow up no wind in the tank ok around a hole .atb you obviously had a sh*t dog then. yes you might be right as i had them in my yard for 5 seasons so you would know nobber how many good ones you seen Quote Link to post
C Hall 552 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Troter58 just because you had them around for 5 seasons does not mean you had good animals around you 1 Quote Link to post
Westy76 546 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 bull x not for me give me a lurcher bred dog do same job ie catch the same but a bit faster and less assell watch the crew vids turn bad lose a lot on cover where a big lurcher would catch j m o on this and i have ran bull xs 20 years ago they blow up no wind in the tank ok around a hole .atb Sorry but you can't knock a x on poor dogs and a DVD,yes there are heavy bred dogs only good enough to catch quick quarry out of a motor and useful round a hole but there's a damn sight more so much better than that out there doing the job season after season. 1 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,425 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 I got a half cross bull grey she's only 23 inch ad got a lot of gutts but she's no fighter soft as shit with other dogs people and kids and carn fault her work she can be lazy in the day don't get me wrong but that's just from experience only go on good scent boys have seen her work and nature can not judge every bullx on a only seeing a few Quote Link to post
Westy76 546 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 What will the whippet add? Yapping or shortness of breath? :laugh: A very silly statment Working whippets have or did have a lot to offer the lurcher, especially the whippets that were around 20 plus year ago Don't mind him he's totally kennel blind I keep threatening to buy him a collie x salxwhip its his worst nightmare,secretly he's desperate for a bull x but after all the agg he dishes out about them he knows hell get it back in skipfulls!!! Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 HM, I was/am a bull cross convert, about 20 years ago when I seen first hand what a good one is capable of... Find the 'right' type, and they'll open your eyes. If you need any more information, drop me a pm. Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 I like a good bull/greyound. I was running a half x bitch with s 3/8 5/8 dog and they were a good team. Ive seen a few start fitting and they can overheat quickly. Apart from that brilliant dogs. Quote Link to post
kranky 507 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 What will the whippet add? Yapping or shortness of breath? :laugh: A very silly statment Working whippets have or did have a lot to offer the lurcher, especially the whippets that were around 20 plus year ago I do apologise. Could you possibly get one of these 20 year old whippets round to line Westy76's bitch? Quote Link to post
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