American Stags In Europe???

[Dan McDonough 560]

I would imagine that not many have been brought over (if any). I don't see where you would have the need for them but if they were there it would be interesting to find out how they stack up. Has anyone from over there even seen any of them and be willing to comment? They look about like this:

[Kenny.B 1]

Either im pissed or im seriously missing something here. I thought a stag was a huge male deer with antlers, yours looks like a dog!!!

[Dan McDonough 560]

It's what we call a group of dogs here that are mostly like a GH/DH cross but can have all sorts of stuff thrown in there over the years. Tecnically I would say that it is simply a longdog or coursing dog. The big difference is that people over here hunt them on coyotes, bear, hogs, fox and anything else that thinks it wants to die on the run. The dog pictued is not my dog but a dog "stag" that I like the looks of and it's a better standing profile of a stag than the few pictures I have of my own stag female. Another difference seems to be that our "stags" seem to use their nose a bit more than what it seems that the coursing dogs over there do.

[Kenny.B 1]

Not sure about the american strain over here, but there are plenty of deerhound x bull/greyhound. Im sure you will have a few pics and replys.

[paulus 26]

It's what we call a group of dogs here that are mostly like a GH/DH cross but can have all sorts of stuff thrown in there over the years. Tecnically I would say that it is simply a longdog or coursing dog. The big difference is that people over here hunt them on coyotes, bear, hogs, fox and anything else that thinks it wants to die on the run. The dog pictued is not my dog but a dog "stag" that I like the looks of and it's a better standing profile of a stag than the few pictures I have of my own stag female. Another difference seems to be that our "stags" seem to use their nose a bit more than what it seems that the coursing dogs over there do.

so there a lurcher the same as any lurcher over here, Theres also plenty of lurchers over here that can hunt its not a trait confined to the states :laugh: a coursing dog is bred to course, a greyhound to race and a lurcher to fill the pot.

[davey 310]

That my friend is my sort of dog !! Outstanding ! The. Thing being how much would it cost to export a dog ? I have thought about importing a good working deerhound but it's finding a breeder and I have not even got to cost jabs, boarding , flights and going to the country to see the stock your buying . So at the moment I'm settling for a first cross deer grey and whip grey x deer grey

[forest of dean redneck 11,190]

seen a borzoi x deerhound looked similar.why import when a deerhound x can do same job?

[davey 310]

To be fare on another thread we talked about two breeders ( which I run one of there dogs ) which say they have working deerhound and I find mine to be missing something or found wanting , so I thought its not the breeders it just needs a bit of new blood bought in My father 65 ran deer x's and myself 40 have run this type all our lives but never bred a litter so I'm thinking it's going to happen sometime

[TOMO 24,876]

Yep,,, just the yank name for a lurcher,,, and the ozy one come to that,,, and some travellers call lurchers stags,, or stag hounds.

 

One thing though about the yank ones though,, is what I have picked up of this site,,, is that they are a very long line,, going back many generations,,, and I have the feeling the yanks,,,weed out week stock far more than we do,

[paulus 26]

Yep,,, just the yank name for a lurcher,,, and the ozy one come to that,,, and some travellers call lurchers stags,, or stag hounds.

 

One thing though about the yank ones though,, is what I have picked up of this site,,, is that they are a very long line,, going back many generations,,, and I have the feeling the yanks,,,weed out week stock far more than we do,

to be fair there not confronted with the constraints we are over here

[j1985 1,983]

Not knocking the US Stags but is it not just a big lurcher to lurcher type which there's plenty about here made up the same way that no doubt could do the same job.

[birddog 1,354]

i seem to remember reading that the american stag hound is recognised by their national kennel club and they have a breed standard, i think because as has been said american hunters are not subject to the same restrictions as we are that theyre idea of a proven dog would be a far better prospect for breeding than some of our 'proven' big longdog type strains as with the best will in the world we don't have bears, coyotes or wolves and the like to test them. and would we need to import a dog? surely we could use straws if we wanted some of this blood

[paulsmithy83 567]

As said with way peeps are huggin the ban scared of a post note on there record many lurcher aint bein tested ova here as said ova there the dog earn it keep or earn a bullet

[low plains drifter 9,467]

One american working dog I would like to see,after what I have read about them would be the cunningham greyhound

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

Yep,,, just the yank name for a lurcher,,, and the ozy one come to that,,, and some travellers call lurchers stags,, or stag hounds.

 

One thing though about the yank ones though,, is what I have picked up of this site,,, is that they are a very long line,, going back many generations,,, and I have the feeling the yanks,,,weed out week stock far more than we do,

 

The yanks dont weed any harder than yall do. We dont have any better dogs either. Dont let all the romantic bullshit on the interwebs fool ya. People are people and dogs is dogs. We may sound a bit different but in the end there aint a damn bit of difference.