Entering to fox

[Ray Mears 272]

not for me i am afraid. i have seen young dogs spoilt by entering to early, yet to see one spoilt by entering later on..

 

 

iv seen dogs ruined by being held back..... if its gonna work itll work, if its gonna thrrow towel in an quit it will at any age, no matter the quarry,, start them young, build there confidence an hey presto... we all got oor own ways

 

 

thats whats so good with the sport every dog is different what worked for one might not work with another...

[stewie 3,387]

You got more chance of making a dog at 2yr old when he's fully developed mentally,physically & had a season of rabbiting under its belt than you will at 12 months old that hasn't seen much & he's still puppyish not matured & developed to the full there's to many people ruining dogs by entering them to young & the wrong way & wonder why they jib that's atb cbx

good dogs start young shit dogs don't

i knew of two pups out of a litter here few years back, 1 big dog went to a man with this type of outlook on dogs and the second smallest bitch went to a man who keeps himself to himself...........at 12 months the big dog was passed back to the breeder as a jibber as it spewed on a fox..............the lad who bred it gave the dog took a chance and it did take a long time to get going, infact it never took a fox single that season lol but when it did click on, it was a fair old animal........

 

the little bitch self entered in her own time by a lad who knew his dogs and was a bitch to be proud off...........coincidence.............

[reddawn 2,173]

You got more chance of making a dog at 2yr old when he's fully developed mentally,physically & had a season of rabbiting under its belt than you will at 12 months old that hasn't seen much & he's still puppyish not matured & developed to the full there's to many people ruining dogs by entering them to young & the wrong way & wonder why they jib that's atb cbx

good dogs start young shit dogs don't

i knew of two pups out of a litter here few years back, 1 big dog went to a man with this type of outlook on dogs and the second smallest bitch went to a man who keeps himself to himself...........at 12 months the big dog was passed back to the breeder as a jibber as it spewed on a fox..............the lad who bred it gave the dog took a chance and it did take a long time to get going, infact it never took a fox single that season lol but when it did click on, it was a fair old animal........

 

the little bitch self entered in her own time by a lad who knew his dogs and was a bitch to be proud off...........coincidence.............

 

 

an i can tell ye aboot a litter that was opposite, a few guys run em on young an they made the grade, a few folks sat on pups an they were culled in end, likes been said, everybody an every dog is diffrent, the trick to entering young is is to build confidence, not over match a young dog

[Matt3699 142]

My old bitch was entered at around 13 months doubled up.

 

Potatoes!

Edited November 30, 2012 by Matt3699

[Ray Mears 272]

My old bitch was entered at around 13 months doubled up.

 

One night I was out and a fox managed to lock onto her face. Top fang went straight through her eye (luckily causing no damage) and the bottom under her chin. The yelps were unreal. But as soon as she got free she finished him quick. After that night she started taking foxes like they were nothing. I thought it would put her off but it only made her better.

 

its a worring time were it can go one way or the other, credit to your bitch to come out the other end fighting

[stewie 3,387]

id edit that...........

[Matt3699 142]

id edit that...........

Why? It was when I lived in Ireland and was preban anyway...

 

It wasn't nice seeing her get a good bite. But it was the only one she got

[stewie 3,387]

id edit that...........

Why? It was when I lived in Ireland and was preban anyway...

 

It wasn't nice seeing her get a good bite. But it was the only one she got

[downsouth 6,842]

You got more chance of making a dog at 2yr old when he's fully developed mentally,physically & had a season of rabbiting under its belt than you will at 12 months old that hasn't seen much & he's still puppyish not matured & developed to the full there's to many people ruining dogs by entering them to young & the wrong way & wonder why they jib that's atb cbx

good dogs start young shit dogs don't

i knew of two pups out of a litter here few years back, 1 big dog went to a man with this type of outlook on dogs and the second smallest bitch went to a man who keeps himself to himself...........at 12 months the big dog was passed back to the breeder as a jibber as it spewed on a fox..............the lad who bred it gave the dog took a chance and it did take a long time to get going, infact it never took a fox single that season lol but when it did click on, it was a fair old animal........

 

the little bitch self entered in her own time by a lad who knew his dogs and was a bitch to be proud off...........coincidence.............

 

 

an i can tell ye aboot a litter that was opposite, a few guys run em on young an they made the grade, a few folks sat on pups an they were culled in end, likes been said, everybody an every dog is diffrent, the trick to entering young is is to build confidence, not over match a young dog

Trouble is a lot of lads think holding a dog back means you leave it sat in a pen and the dogs just end up mongos.

[reddawn 2,173]

You got more chance of making a dog at 2yr old when he's fully developed mentally,physically & had a season of rabbiting under its belt than you will at 12 months old that hasn't seen much & he's still puppyish not matured & developed to the full there's to many people ruining dogs by entering them to young & the wrong way & wonder why they jib that's atb cbx

good dogs start young shit dogs don't

i knew of two pups out of a litter here few years back, 1 big dog went to a man with this type of outlook on dogs and the second smallest bitch went to a man who keeps himself to himself...........at 12 months the big dog was passed back to the breeder as a jibber as it spewed on a fox..............the lad who bred it gave the dog took a chance and it did take a long time to get going, infact it never took a fox single that season lol but when it did click on, it was a fair old animal........

 

the little bitch self entered in her own time by a lad who knew his dogs and was a bitch to be proud off...........coincidence.............

 

 

an i can tell ye aboot a litter that was opposite, a few guys run em on young an they made the grade, a few folks sat on pups an they were culled in end, likes been said, everybody an every dog is diffrent, the trick to entering young is is to build confidence, not over match a young dog

Trouble is a lot of lads think holding a dog back means you leave it sat in a pen and the dogs just end up mongos.

 

like i said pal, everybody is diffrent, pups dont learn jack shit in a pen, but i know folk leave em there till they think they ready for work, same as some folks drop pups on shit that'll over match them, wether that be a good hare/fox/deer or even a bunny that knows the score, but there are guys out there who enter dogs young, build them up an in the end get decent dogs, each to there own, but i like to think i know what i got before it hits maturity

[Brian-911 210]

You got more chance of making a dog at 2yr old when he's fully developed mentally,physically & had a season of rabbiting under its belt than you will at 12 months old that hasn't seen much & he's still puppyish not matured & developed to the full there's to many people ruining dogs by entering them to young & the wrong way & wonder why they jib that's atb cbx

good dogs start young shit dogs don't

i knew of two pups out of a litter here few years back, 1 big dog went to a man with this type of outlook on dogs and the second smallest bitch went to a man who keeps himself to himself...........at 12 months the big dog was passed back to the breeder as a jibber as it spewed on a fox..............the lad who bred it gave the dog took a chance and it did take a long time to get going, infact it never took a fox single that season lol but when it did click on, it was a fair old animal........

 

the little bitch self entered in her own time by a lad who knew his dogs and was a bitch to be proud off...........coincidence.............

 

 

an i can tell ye aboot a litter that was opposite, a few guys run em on young an they made the grade, a few folks sat on pups an they were culled in end, likes been said, everybody an every dog is diffrent, the trick to entering young is is to build confidence, not over match a young dog

Trouble is a lot of lads think holding a dog back means you leave it sat in a pen and the dogs just end up mongos.

 

like i said pal, everybody is diffrent, pups dont learn jack shit in a pen, but i know folk leave em there till they think they ready for work, same as some folks drop pups on shit that'll over match them, wether that be a good hare/fox/deer or even a bunny that knows the score, but there are guys out there who enter dogs young, build them up an in the end get decent dogs, each to there own, but i like to think i know what i got before it hits maturity

So what age would you say was an appropriate age to enter a dog ? I've never entered a dog to fox so wouldn't know myself but it's interesting to see how many different opinions there are on the subject. If only it was pre ban I might of been thinking about entering the bitch I have now

[reddawn 2,173]

You got more chance of making a dog at 2yr old when he's fully developed mentally,physically & had a season of rabbiting under its belt than you will at 12 months old that hasn't seen much & he's still puppyish not matured & developed to the full there's to many people ruining dogs by entering them to young & the wrong way & wonder why they jib that's atb cbx

good dogs start young shit dogs don't

i knew of two pups out of a litter here few years back, 1 big dog went to a man with this type of outlook on dogs and the second smallest bitch went to a man who keeps himself to himself...........at 12 months the big dog was passed back to the breeder as a jibber as it spewed on a fox..............the lad who bred it gave the dog took a chance and it did take a long time to get going, infact it never took a fox single that season lol but when it did click on, it was a fair old animal........

 

the little bitch self entered in her own time by a lad who knew his dogs and was a bitch to be proud off...........coincidence.............

 

 

an i can tell ye aboot a litter that was opposite, a few guys run em on young an they made the grade, a few folks sat on pups an they were culled in end, likes been said, everybody an every dog is diffrent, the trick to entering young is is to build confidence, not over match a young dog

Trouble is a lot of lads think holding a dog back means you leave it sat in a pen and the dogs just end up mongos.

 

like i said pal, everybody is diffrent, pups dont learn jack shit in a pen, but i know folk leave em there till they think they ready for work, same as some folks drop pups on shit that'll over match them, wether that be a good hare/fox/deer or even a bunny that knows the score, but there are guys out there who enter dogs young, build them up an in the end get decent dogs, each to there own, but i like to think i know what i got before it hits maturity

So what age would you say was an appropriate age to enter a dog ? I've never entered a dog to fox so wouldn't know myself but it's interesting to see how many different opinions there are on the subject. If only it was pre ban I might of been thinking about entering the bitch I have now

 

would depend on the dog an time a year among other things pal, it would probs be introduced to a fox carcas at a young age an probs even encouraged to hunt them during the day whilst excersizing with other dogs, when its time to show it a fox on the lamp if that yous game is up to the owner he should know his dog best, but likes been said, dont just throw a pup in the deep end an hope for the best, build its confidence, thats just the way id do it pal, if that was my game

[Boss-Hog 269]

i just love mongos pmsl and a subaru soon gets em going ;;;;;

[Ray Mears 272]

when i metioned held back i dont mean in the pen doing nothing. i mean out with the other dogs on the lead watching everthing allowed to rag dead carcass after the dogs have dispatched it etc. all dogs are different some wil be able to do it younger and some will have to be held back abit sometimes this just come down to the breed but also the individual dog too. i wouldnt slip mine on a fox until around 18 months + and its first one would be doubled up if all goes well it would be single from there. i have entered a dog single but prefer to double up at first.

[csd_88 138]

let them see them soon as there old anoth to get out imo not going to hurt letting it watch a few times before it joins in imo, its either in them or it aint,