Ireland Lawerencetown Show, Cancelled

[Wetnoseman 26]

so is dessies show cancelled becaise of fiona rose and the 2 greyhound girls fighting ? why doesnt he just cancel the racing then ?

[bluebandit 63]

I can't c it being canceled just beacuse of this as it had nothin 2 do with fiona an rose at the end of the day someone was questioned on there dogs breeding an they started an causing a seen at a show

[vermin catcher 219]

once again im saddened by the state of the lurcher and terrier seen in n ireland its really a disgrace all for the sake of a trophy for myself ive been going to lurcher and terrier shows for 15 years or so and to tell you the truth i have no intrested in atteding another the lurcher racing seen has attracted a great deal of new comers over the last few years and want to get to the top and this is where alot of greyhound types come in

but me ill stick to my working dogs keep my head down and get on with my sport

 

robert

 

:yes: :yes: mate i had stopped going to the shows for about 10 years and decided to go to Ballywalter and Shanes this year just to let my two wee lads see the whole fieldsports variety as they are hunting mad.And to be honest im the same as you,i found that our end of things (lurchers) and the racing in particular to be a complete joke and i cant see me going back to any in the near future. Im not on to slate anyone who is into racing but it didn't take a genius to realise most of the winners if not full greyhounds were as close to full as you can get.To me its just not fair on the lads who have a genuine fast working lurcher that they are conned by these cheats who are beating genuine lurchers with track greyhounds. Like you ill stick to using my own dogs where it counts, in the field and leave the shows to the guys who prize a rosette/trophy and a few quid before their own honour .And Dessie on a personal note, GOOD LUCK with the case.

[blackdog4 75]

At the end of the day it is only suppose to be a bit of crac and pastime during the spring and summer months.it has got far to serious .

your right mate a bit of crac thats all it is but ther r sum in this world

[milliken 831]

every one on this site and round the dog world thinks we are a laughing stock all this bitching slagging off he done this he done that if you have a problem see the parson face to face there is no need to air it for the world to see at one time in ireland we where well resepcted for breeding some the best working dogs in the world be it digging dogs coursing dogs and strong dogs just to name a few

now we are getting laughed at knowen for all this bitching and all the shite that goes on at shows are sport is going down the pan thanks alot lads

 

robert

 

Robert,

 

Agreed - I have a suggestion - let us all come on here on under our own names and put our points of view openly and up front and let us IGNORE or OSTRACISE those who can only peddle abuse from behind an alias.

 

Albertj

im all up for that from day one on here ive alway came under my own second name and always sign my first name at the bottom of my posts

 

robert

[young man 225]

the internets been red hott'

[muddyriver 5]

so is dessies show cancelled becaise of fiona rose and the 2 greyhound girls fighting ? why doesnt he just cancel the racing then ?

 

Yes I agree ,its allways the racing that causes argueing at these shows up north...why not just leave out the racing and run your show...and best of luck with the trouble your having, hope it goes your way

[bluebandit 63]

As he would loose over 200pound as at camlough there was over 80dogs ran in just straight racing an then there was more in the stimulated racing so people like racing there dogs at these shows an if some people hold the racing first some people go home afterwards as they don't like showing there dogs

[Carraghs Gem 1,699]

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[colliexgreyhound 119]

All dogs, when registered with the ICC for stud duties, are required to give a hair sample for DNA purposes, as is a brood bitch when she has her first litter of pups presented for earmarking at 8-10 weeks.

 

I really don`t know how taking a sample from a `suspect` dog will determine if he is full greyhound or not ?

 

To determine parentage, you would need both parents to be DNA. There is nothing to stop breeding two greyhounds together, as they are not registered in the DNA system, calling them Lurchers and there is no way of proving if they are 100% Greyhounds, or in the majority of cases 95% Greyhound X`s by getting DNA done.

 

I have just spoken to Tom Buckley at the National Equine Centre in Kildare, where our stud dogs are registered and he put me on to the DNA Department at Wetherbys and they told me that they can`t determine what breed of dog is from a DNA sample, all they can determine is parentage, for which they need both parents. So all this `talk` about DNA is a load of rubbish, unless everybody concerned with a certain dog is happy to bring the dog and both parents for testing ! Can just see that happening !!

couldn't see the two parents of the dog in question turning up, because in most cases both would have a tatoo in one ear.

[colliexgreyhound 119]

Is there anyway to even out the odds on the greyhound vs lurcher lure racing debate? Jumps? Turns in the lure coursing etc?

 

Cant see too many greyhounds winning if the race isnt a straight line?

Longer course the greyhounds would run out of steam quicker than a lurcher.