Hancock....

[sikastag_1 689]

The only positive side I can see to going to Hancock is toucan get the exact cross you want and know that's exactly what your getting.

 

I know how hard it is to find a good working dog with even a little collie influence as iv been looking for a stud for a while so this is where Hancock can beat people.

 

My pride kept me from going anywhere near him when iv been looking for a pup as I was brought up that dogs and money don't mix and 1 certainly shouldn't be usde to make the other.

 

You can't deny the mans a peddler thousands of pups? No man on this earth needs thousands of pups unless he's trying to make money like Hancock therefore he's a peddler he spits out pups for money no matter what anybody tells theirself to make theirself feel better that's what he is. pups should only come about if the owner and or his/her friends need and want a dog from the dog/s used money should be the last thing on anybody's mind.

 

Just for the record I'm not knocking anybody's dog I know there has been some great dogs from his kennels but with percentages and owners time it's bound to happen, I just would be disappointed with myself lining the pocket of somebody using dogs for nothing other than pup machine so I won't be going.

thats a fare and honest post there will and as been decent enough workers from the said kennels and one could say there may have been more if not for those that fell in to incompetent handlers hands, but as one says the collie is pretty much one dimensional and i believe are a very good ingredient to beget the right type of edible game animal.atb bunnys.

 

Another good point mate about bad handlers he will sell a pup to anyone therefore does he have the pups best interests at heart or his own.

[Guest born to run1083]

The only positive side I can see to going to Hancock is toucan get the exact cross you want and know that's exactly what your getting.

 

I know how hard it is to find a good working dog with even a little collie influence as iv been looking for a stud for a while so this is where Hancock can beat people.

 

My pride kept me from going anywhere near him when iv been looking for a pup as I was brought up that dogs and money don't mix and 1 certainly shouldn't be usde to make the other.

 

You can't deny the mans a peddler thousands of pups? No man on this earth needs thousands of pups unless he's trying to make money like Hancock therefore he's a peddler he spits out pups for money no matter what anybody tells theirself to make theirself feel better that's what he is. pups should only come about if the owner and or his/her friends need and want a dog from the dog/s used money should be the last thing on anybody's mind.

 

Just for the record I'm not knocking anybody's dog I know there has been some great dogs from his kennels but with percentages and owners time it's bound to happen, I just would be disappointed with myself lining the pocket of somebody using dogs for nothing other than pup machine so I won't be going.

thats a fare and honest post there will and as been decent enough workers from the said kennels and one could say there may have been more if not for those that fell in to incompetent handlers hands, but as one says the collie is pretty much one dimensional and i believe are a very good ingredient to beget the right type of edible game animal.atb bunnys.

 

Another good point mate about bad handlers he will sell a pup to anyone therefore does he have the pups best interests at heart or his own.

On another note I bet % of people who go there arnt even suited to a collie x, you need the right temperament to succeed with this type I wonder how many have failed because of this. There like saluki x you have to have the right mind set to get the best out of one. Still he is a peddler and with no work under them he's not my cuppa.

[bunnys 1,236]

some yrs back one could aquire a collie bred type from workers in evry village town etc , theyre like hens teeth now , this is the problem hancocks is like a sweet fatory to some they get lured in for the wants of the type . atbbunnys.

[graham4877 1,181]

Ever time handock comes up,, all what people look at is .. the pups turned out good or bad.. the point i always make is the facts the man breeds for money only,, he don't give to shits about who buys a pup or what happens to it as long as he has got his money.. now is that a good breeder?? NO

the breeding stock he keeps only get out of the kennel/run to be mated..shocking and wrong.. now how can any dog man or woman except that?

 

The only good point for using him is you will get the cross you want..thats the one and only good point about him..

I know if i wanted a cross of that sort.. I would wait till one pops up from working dam and sire,, theirs been 4 litter that i know of in the last 6 month..

[Guest born to run1083]

I really don't approve of Hancock but it has to be said . a lad goes up there now as far as Ive been told an walks and puts some work into the dogs. I know he uses the pure beardie for ferreting and few others for flushing game.

[bunnys 1,236]

thats a good point graham and i whole heartedly agree with your point of view ,i would personally breed my own now if needed the type and cull and gift the remaining out ,one can aquire collie studs for a song and damn good uns at that workers . atb bunnys.

[graham4877 1,181]

thats a good point graham and i whole heartedly agree with your point of view ,i would personally breed my own now if needed the type and cull and gift the remaining out ,one can aquire collie studs for a song and damn good uns at that workers . atb bunnys.

yep mate even if you have to get dam in and breed from her keep what you want cull left overs and give the dam away to good home or cull,, will be better than a life of the puppy machine!!

 

But tbo i think their far far better cross's out their!

[bird 10,014]

Buy or don't fecking buy,...but, use the dog to its fullest potential, whatever that may be.....

 

spot on , its as easy as that some people have had dogs of him , my mate had 2 he liked them, then you here other people who got them and they say shit dogs,? my self i( wouldnt ) have 1, because what he got never see a feckin rabbit, just stuck in a run 24/7. Any lurcher you buy you need luck , but if the parents out working either working sheep+ cattle or bit of lamping , as was my dogs parents were of Bryn1x collie grey , thats what i would go for when picking a 1x collie grey or what ever the %

[wuyang 513]

I like the look of that little beardie stud their bringing on...beauty

[Hitcher 297]

i had a first x bitch of him an it didnt get the amount of work it needed it defo had a lot of pray drive so any faults it had was down to me just the wrong time for me to have collie lurcher, but she did produce a couple first class pups my own was killed on the road an another we still have couldnt fault this doghes got everything on his cv

[poacher3161 1,766]

Never had one or wanted one due to not believing all the hype about them in the 80s seen one coursing out of the first litter he ever bred and made my mind up they were no better than lurchers being bred in council house back gardens.

[dytkos 17,918]

Never had one or wanted one due to not believing all the hype about them in the 80s seen one coursing out of the first litter he ever bred and made my mind up they were no better than lurchers being bred in council house back gardens.

 

Or no worse Dell.

 

I wouldn't buy another from him but I'm 30 years down the line from my 1st one from him.

No internet in the 's when you wanted a dog and couldn't find what you wanted local?

 

Cheers, D.

[chartpolski 27,686]

Never had anything to do with Hancock; but he is what he is : a breeder and seller of Collie Lurcher pups ! He doesn't make extravagant claims about his dogs, and you get exactly what you expect, (which is more than can be said for a lot of the "backyard breeders" ) !! If you want a pup bred from generations of workers..... don't buy from him !! Simple !! Some people who have had dogs from him rate them, others don't; but the majority who slate him probably have never had a dog from him.

 

Cheers.

[birddog 1,354]

sorry but a dealer buys something in and sells it on for a profit, the hancocks are breeders and they don't make silly claims or the like so i would call them honest breeders. i've no real gripe for or against them they do what they do guy's, if they were no good at it they'd have been bankrupt decades ago. so we don't like puppy farmers......we all eat eggs from battery chicken houses or pork and bacon from intensively reared pigs etc, how many of us keep ferrets in there runs with no real exercise especially at this time of year? do i sense a touch of hypocrisy? although ive seen a few over the years, i've only owned one she's 4yr old and does everything i expect a lurcher to do, she won't win a lurcher race or course fenland hares, but i didn't want a racing dog or a saluki type so i went to an honest breeder with decades of experience breeding a type i wanted and after living with her it's easy to understand why their business is thriving

[tinytiger 872]

I knew a fella who had one, not much wrong with the dog at all.. Although it did only have One Ball

 

that would be from the greyhound side id say-its getting very common.(Just a thought that suddenly occurred tom just now-two of best staying greyhounds of all time (scurlogue champ and spiridon louis)had none.I wouldnt mind trying a bearded collie x sometime