Ireland Ballywalter Game and Country Living Fair yesterday Saturday 5th

[lurcherdave 6]

Where can the pics be found albert

[AlbertJ 569]

Where can the pics be found albert

 

Just finishing off site clear up and some urgent work for Shanes. Photos will be posted on hear, Facebook, K9 and the fair website by the end of the week.

Albertj

[chartpolski 28,924]

Albert, there is no way you can tell if a dog is a "pure" Whippet, simply by looking at it !! It's impossible, no matter how good a judge of dogs you are ! I could bring an 18 lb bitch from my local track along to one of your shows, and most people would swear it was a Whippet... yet it is half Greyhound!!! If you are to continue haveing Pedigree or "pure" Whippet racing, then you have to bite the bullet and insist on seeing the registration papers...no papers-no race, unless they go in the "under 23" Lurcher race !

 

As for the "Lurcher" racing, this was ruined a long tme ago, when people started breeding 3/4, 7/8 and 15/16th Greyhound crosses specificaly for "Lurcher " racing... now they don't even bother with the tiny bit that is'nt Greyhound, and just run No-Ped Whippets and unregistered Greyhounds !! I agree with Mally, if these people want out and out racers instead of workers, then do it properly and race at organised race tracks, then the true Lurchers may have a chance of winning a race !

 

Cheers.

[lurcherdave 6]

Ok albert thanks who will be posting them on facebook?

 

[lurcher330 2,301]

Had a great day at the show on sunday,my old black dog won the veteran class,and i lend my lakeland dog to a young lad to enter in the pairs and he got 3rd ,i didn't stick around for the racing,because the baby wasn't well and had to head back to Dublin,But i will say thanks to Albert and the two Matts for putting on a good show,.

 

And well done Lurcher Dave you got me this time LOL

 

And well done Steven Dessie and Graham for the lurcher , terrier and whippet champions fine dogs,and well done to the judges done a great job

[Martin Tucker 23]

I`m afraid your talking out of your `backside` winner69 !

 

You shouldn`t really comment on matters you know nothing about ! Talk is cheap and your out of your league !

 

Just because I have Ernie at stud doesn`t mean I breed Non-peds, lurchers or what ever your ignorance of his breeding thinks he is !

 

When I breed Ernie to Winnie at the end of the year, you can read about it on here !

 

I`m afraid all the bickering and arguments about dogs can only damage the sport, if that`s what you want to call it !

 

The only proper race meets take place in Roscrea and Enniscorthy, the rest i`m afraid are just a free for all ! It`s a shame as there are plenty of good people out there that organise events for our benefit. Those that give out usually don`t contribute anything worthwhile, but are the first to get on the key board !

[Bri 81]

Well me and the family had a great day and the mutts enjoyed it as well.

Well done and thanks to all the organisers and judges.

 

Bri

[tango 221]

i didnt really want to get involved in this rubbish but the lot of you want to take a step back and think ,i spent a whole lot of my time on sunday trying pretty hard to get lurchers involved on the planned working dog club and after all this i really wonder why i bothered.yes there may very well be a few people with dogs that have a question on their breeding around the shows racing but that is no reason at all to slate a whole event. that after all is put on for yous all. all the shouting about some lads greyhounds on here after the fact again instead of asking him upfront on sunday. everyone that runs a show at the minute and i even mean the small ones is wondering why they bother at all with all this goin on. at the end of it all you can only take what the person tells you as theres no way to proof breeding unless you have both the parents of the dog for dna testing,simply sending one sample doesnt prove anything. stop slating behind keyboards and speak to the people face to face as the only thing yous are doing is giving ammo to our hunting enemies and we already have plenty of them..

Edited May 8, 2012 by tango

[poacherslad22 122]

Well said Kieran

[lurcherdave 6]

Had a great day at the show on sunday,my old black dog won the veteran class,and i lend my lakeland dog to a young lad to enter in the pairs and he got 3rd ,i didn't stick around for the racing,because the baby wasn't well and had to head back to Dublin,But i will say thanks to Albert and the two Matts for putting on a good show,.

 

And well done Lurcher Dave you got me this time LOL

 

And well done Steven Dessie and Graham for the lurcher , terrier and whippet champions fine dogs,and well done to the judges done a great job

The one and only time, hopefully not the last you should've stayed for the racing my bitch won the rough coat race but then got stuffed in the next race

[pigsy 34]

I was at the fair,i also keep whippets and i go to the whippet shows at Dunsilly and im sure my dogs have raced against some of the questionable dogs in this debate and have been beaten by them. But winning a rosette or trophy is not the end all or be all of a working whippet for me.Hunting ability and doing the business in the field is what counts,my dogs are far from the best in the world but they are a hunting assett to me and i enjoy working them.I can understand other whippet owners getting frustrated by the so called cheats at the fairs but lets face it lads your dog should be for hunting and the fairs a bit of fun with the family if you have one.I find it funny the cheaters go to such lengths for a trophy and in the process make enemies of so many true doggy men,its sad really.And to blame the organizers of Ballywalter is quite easy, but as stated i have seen questionable whippets race against my own dogs at Dunsilly and there are far more accomplished whippet people who specialize in the breed present and its allowed.My missus and she knows fook all about about whippets asked me why our dogs didnt have a lovely feathered fluffy tails like the one standing beside us at Dunsilly the other week! :hmm:Take it on the chin lads cheaters are in every walk of life why should our sport be any different. My dogs put rabbits in the freezer for ferret food rosettes are for a drawer in the kitchen some where Any way me the missus and the kids enjoyed the whole day and it was a credit to the guys running it ,its a thankless task judgeing anything and judges are always non-winnersno matter what

 

Know were your misses is coming from a tail like the the Quinns dog how does it do ih the showing with a tail like Kangaroo watch it on the start line at the next show it is in the blue jacket

Edited May 8, 2012 by pigsy

[Themaverick 110]

HOW TO HELL DID THE LINE JUDGE COME UP WITH THE RESULT THAT MY DOG WASNT PLACED! MY DOG WAS NUMBER 2!! A PHOTO SAYS A THOUSAND WORDS...ALBERT I HOPE THE RESULTS ARE CORRECTED BEFORE GOING TO PRINT, KRISTYS BLADE WAS 1ST,MAVERICK WAS 2ND,I DONT CARE ABOUT GETTING A ROSETTE, JUST IV BEEN TOLD ON HERE, THE 1 RED SHEET WAS CALLED SECOND BY THE OWNERS MATE, AND HIS WORD WAS TAKEN OVER MINE...AND THAT BLUE DOG,NUMBER3, FOUGHT WITH HIM THE WHOLE WAY UP THE FEILD, THATS ONE OF THE DOGS EVERYONE IS SAYING IS A FULL GREYHOUND....IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ELIBERATE ON THAT,SOMEONE SAID THEY KNEW THIS DOGS WERE GREYHOUNDS AND HAD THE BREEDING OF THEM I BELIEVE...

[AlbertJ 569]

HOW TO HELL DID THE LINE JUDGE COME UP WITH THE RESULT THAT MY DOG WASNT PLACED! MY DOG WAS NUMBER 2!! A PHOTO SAYS A THOUSAND WORDS...ALBERT I HOPE THE RESULTS ARE CORRECTED BEFORE GOING TO PRINT, KRISTYS BLADE WAS 1ST,MAVERICK WAS 2ND,I DONT CARE ABOUT GETTING A ROSETTE, JUST IV BEEN TOLD ON HERE, THE 1 RED SHEET WAS CALLED SECOND BY THE OWNERS MATE, AND HIS WORD WAS TAKEN OVER MINE...AND THAT BLUE DOG,NUMBER3, FOUGHT WITH HIM THE WHOLE WAY UP THE FEILD, THATS ONE OF THE DOGS EVERYONE IS SAYING IS A FULL GREYHOUND....IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ELIBERATE ON THAT,SOMEONE SAID THEY KNEW THIS DOGS WERE GREYHOUNDS AND HAD THE BREEDING OF THEM I BELIEVE...

 

Fiona,

 

I didn't choose the line judges - when I was there there were two.

 

For the Master Mc Grath at Shanes last year we had three line judges including the Chairman of the Hunting Association of NI plus an accurate photo finish.

AND at shanes all decisions were agreed except for one where the vote was 2:1. That shows how tight things are approaching the line. The photo you refer to does not appear to be

on the line so I am afraid the line judges decision stands. I don't know which judge called it but I have known one of the judges for several years and I personally would not doubt his integrity.

 

Albertj

[vermin catcher 219]

I was at the fair,i also keep whippets and i go to the whippet shows at Dunsilly and im sure my dogs have raced against some of the questionable dogs in this debate and have been beaten by them. But winning a rosette or trophy is not the end all or be all of a working whippet for me.Hunting ability and doing the business in the field is what counts,my dogs are far from the best in the world but they are a hunting assett to me and i enjoy working them.I can understand other whippet owners getting frustrated by the so called cheats at the fairs but lets face it lads your dog should be for hunting and the fairs a bit of fun with the family if you have one.I find it funny the cheaters go to such lengths for a trophy and in the process make enemies of so many true doggy men,its sad really.And to blame the organizers of Ballywalter is quite easy, but as stated i have seen questionable whippets race against my own dogs at Dunsilly and there are far more accomplished whippet people who specialize in the breed present and its allowed.My missus and she knows fook all about about whippets asked me why our dogs didnt have a lovely feathered fluffy tails like the one standing beside us at Dunsilly the other week! :hmm:Take it on the chin lads cheaters are in every walk of life why should our sport be any different. My dogs put rabbits in the freezer for ferret food rosettes are for a drawer in the kitchen some where Any way me the missus and the kids enjoyed the whole day and it was a credit to the guys running it ,its a thankless task judgeing anything and judges are always non-winnersno matter what

 

Know were your misses is coming from a tail like the the Quinns dog how does it do ih the showing with a tail like Kangaroo watch it on the start line at the next show it is in the blue jacket

The only problem is mate, my missus asked me why our whippets tails wernt feathered.I told her because ours are whippets !

[Wetnoseman 26]

HOLY CRAP !!!! A FEATHERED TAILED WHIPPET !! COME ON ALBERT STAMP THIS OUT LOLOLOL MY MISSUS USED TO HAVE FEATHER CUT BACK IN THE 70S AND WASNT AS FEATHERED AS THAT DOGS TAIL :laugh: :laugh: