DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Just imagine how good lurchers nowadays would be if every dog was bred best to best from the start purely for performance Many have been matey, the line of dogs I have go back to the 70's, the bull cross to the 's and they have been bred best to the best since the line was founded, not by me I might add! Just look at the coursing bred dogs, those lads have bred best to the best for many years too, and their dogs are fine athletes, and great at their job. Same can be said for all sporting diciplines. It really baffles me why folk still pump out first cross lurchers? Madness Im not knocking you but a fool and his money are easily parted, its hard to take someone's word that he has lines of dogs going back 30+ years. True working dogmen are few and far between 1 Quote Link to post
HALTY LAD 92 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Just imagine how good lurchers nowadays would be if every dog was bred best to best from the start purely for performance Many have been matey, the line of dogs I have go back to the 70's, the bull cross to the 's and they have been bred best to the best since the line was founded, not by me I might add! Just look at the coursing bred dogs, those lads have bred best to the best for many years too, and their dogs are fine athletes, and great at their job. Same can be said for all sporting diciplines. It really baffles me why folk still pump out first cross lurchers? Madness Im not knocking you but a fool and his money are easily parted, its hard to take someone's word that he has lines of dogs going back 30+ years. True working dogmen are few and far between Firstly, Ive NEVER parted coin for a dog Secondly, all of my friends I call TRUE dog men. more so than me, as they keep these lines going. 1 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 What dogs of yours go back to the 70s? Quote Link to post
chartpolski 20,426 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Bosun, Delta is now 6 1/2 year old, and I'm toying with the idea of having her mated next time she's in. I've never bred a litter in over 45 years of having running dogs, simply 'cause I thought I could bring better in ! People go on about the Stud Dog.. but what abut the bitch ? It would have to be some dog, that I'd let across Delta, but I think I'd regret never having a pup out of her ! Decisions, decisions !! Cheers. In this day an age that is to be admired mate, i've only bred one. As far as i'm concerned the bitch is as important as the dog, i'd always admire a good bitch over a good dog and there are far more good dogs. So choose wisley, (no offence) but with your years with running dogs behind you, go for your gut not your head, you'll know when something is right, no matter how 'unlikely' that may seem. When I heard about Lima's litter, (Doxhope Knights Errant x Rivington Ena), my gut instinct was to get one ! My "head" then kicked in and I did my home work, including PM'ing the man who bred the sire, and checking "Greyhound Data" about the dams breeding.... It was what I wanted, so a 'phone call and a 500 mile round trip, and the pup I wanted was mine ! I've two very good bitches in my kennel now, but not that many years left to produce a "Line" LOL !! I'll just enjoy what I have, and keep my "game book" up to date, it may make decent reading, in years to come ! Cheers. :laugh: Produce a 'line', who do ya think you are mate.. Fecking Plummer! You produce the best ya can mate, thats all we can really hope for in this lurcher saturated country and if a line developes, in your lifetime or not, then you've done all you can to breed best from best and thats fecking admirable.... and make damn sure ya keep that book up to date, it's a rarety these days, i've read a few and only two of those 'should' be published (mine 'not' included)! Bosun, I put "line", in inverted coma's....quickly followed by a "LOL", which as an old man, I thought would let the readers know, I was joking !! I'll never have a "line", or a book..... just a record of what my dogs have done, to be read by my kids, and, hopefully, grandkids, as I fear this life of ours is in it's dying days ! Next time I see you, you're buying the drink, for being a cheeky young pup !! Cheers. Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Just imagine how good lurchers nowadays would be if every dog was bred best to best from the start purely for performance Many have been matey, the line of dogs I have go back to the 70's, the bull cross to the 's and they have been bred best to the best since the line was founded, not by me I might add! Just look at the coursing bred dogs, those lads have bred best to the best for many years too, and their dogs are fine athletes, and great at their job. Same can be said for all sporting diciplines. It really baffles me why folk still pump out first cross lurchers? Madness Im not knocking you but a fool and his money are easily parted, its hard to take someone's word that he has lines of dogs going back 30+ years. True working dogmen are few and far between Firstly, Ive NEVER parted coin for a dog Secondly, all of my friends I call TRUE dog men. more so than me, as they keep these lines going. I didn't mean you, i was saying people fall for tall tales of a dogs lineage without knowing if it's true or not Quote Link to post
old school 476 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I'd have everyones off thl as all are world beaters and most even shit gold most of them would need to shite gold at the price they get sold on for lol Quote Link to post
jamie7344 237 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) I'd of loved to own a dog called gelert top wolf killing dog from wales was he red smooth coated dog with dropped lugs? I'd of loved to own a dog called gelert top wolf killing dog from wales was he red smooth coated dog with dropped lugs? Don't think so Mate,Collie Based i Believe.Lol. not the dog from anglessy then, that a lad they call tommy the boxer had? be a different 1 i think Edited January 5, 2012 by jamie7344 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Bosun, Delta is now 6 1/2 year old, and I'm toying with the idea of having her mated next time she's in. I've never bred a litter in over 45 years of having running dogs, simply 'cause I thought I could bring better in ! People go on about the Stud Dog.. but what abut the bitch ? It would have to be some dog, that I'd let across Delta, but I think I'd regret never having a pup out of her ! Decisions, decisions !! Cheers. In this day an age that is to be admired mate, i've only bred one. As far as i'm concerned the bitch is as important as the dog, i'd always admire a good bitch over a good dog and there are far more good dogs. So choose wisley, (no offence) but with your years with running dogs behind you, go for your gut not your head, you'll know when something is right, no matter how 'unlikely' that may seem. When I heard about Lima's litter, (Doxhope Knights Errant x Rivington Ena), my gut instinct was to get one ! My "head" then kicked in and I did my home work, including PM'ing the man who bred the sire, and checking "Greyhound Data" about the dams breeding.... It was what I wanted, so a 'phone call and a 500 mile round trip, and the pup I wanted was mine ! I've two very good bitches in my kennel now, but not that many years left to produce a "Line" LOL !! I'll just enjoy what I have, and keep my "game book" up to date, it may make decent reading, in years to come ! Cheers. :laugh: Produce a 'line', who do ya think you are mate.. Fecking Plummer! You produce the best ya can mate, thats all we can really hope for in this lurcher saturated country and if a line developes, in your lifetime or not, then you've done all you can to breed best from best and thats fecking admirable.... and make damn sure ya keep that book up to date, it's a rarety these days, i've read a few and only two of those 'should' be published (mine 'not' included)! Bosun, I put "line", in inverted coma's....quickly followed by a "LOL", which as an old man, I thought would let the readers know, I was joking !! I'll never have a "line", or a book..... just a record of what my dogs have done, to be read by my kids, and, hopefully, grandkids, as I fear this life of ours is in it's dying days ! Next time I see you, you're buying the drink, for being a cheeky young pup !! Cheers. My apologies Richie, I seen your punctuation, thought you'd have seen mine in the context it was written... I know you were joking, I was too..! Yep.... I'm buying mate.... Name ya poison.... 1 Quote Link to post
HALTY LAD 92 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Just imagine how good lurchers nowadays would be if every dog was bred best to best from the start purely for performance Many have been matey, the line of dogs I have go back to the 70's, the bull cross to the 's and they have been bred best to the best since the line was founded, not by me I might add! Just look at the coursing bred dogs, those lads have bred best to the best for many years too, and their dogs are fine athletes, and great at their job. Same can be said for all sporting diciplines. It really baffles me why folk still pump out first cross lurchers? Madness Im not knocking you but a fool and his money are easily parted, its hard to take someone's word that he has lines of dogs going back 30+ years. True working dogmen are few and far between Firstly, Ive NEVER parted coin for a dog Secondly, all of my friends I call TRUE dog men. more so than me, as they keep these lines going. I didn't mean you, i was saying people fall for tall tales of a dogs lineage without knowing if it's true or not Fair point Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Just imagine how good lurchers nowadays would be if every dog was bred best to best from the start purely for performance Many have been matey, the line of dogs I have go back to the 70's, the bull cross to the 's and they have been bred best to the best since the line was founded, not by me I might add! Just look at the coursing bred dogs, those lads have bred best to the best for many years too, and their dogs are fine athletes, and great at their job. Same can be said for all sporting diciplines. It really baffles me why folk still pump out first cross lurchers? Madness What cross are yours going back to the 70s Im not knocking you but a fool and his money are easily parted, its hard to take someone's word that he has lines of dogs going back 30+ years. True working dogmen are few and far between Firstly, Ive NEVER parted coin for a dog Secondly, all of my friends I call TRUE dog men. more so than me, as they keep these lines going. I didn't mean you, i was saying people fall for tall tales of a dogs lineage without knowing if it's true or not Fair point Quote Link to post
salclalin 240 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I'd of loved to own a dog called gelert top wolf killing dog from wales was he red smooth coated dog with dropped lugs? I'd of loved to own a dog called gelert top wolf killing dog from wales was he red smooth coated dog with dropped lugs? Don't think so Mate,Collie Based i Believe.Lol. not the dog from anglessy then, that a lad they call tommy the boxer had? be a different 1 i think No Mate,I think Joball was Having a Laugh.Gelert was the Hound of Prince Llewelyn in the 13Century Quote Link to post
chartpolski 20,426 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Gelert was actualy a MYTH, he never happened !! The same myth is told around the world...a good stoty but no truer than Jack Londons White Fang, or Call Of The Wild" !! Cheers. Quote Link to post
tia.kins 56 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Real nice looking back at the dogs of old and dreaming....... Unfortunately, there is very little these dogs of old can bring to the table in the days of now. Having spent too many years dreaming and wondering, I've come to the conclusion that it's better to keep one eye proper focused on what you have, and the other on looking forward. Legends are easily glorified and make for good pub talk, or fanciful pen scribble, which makes them that bit harder for the dogs of today to hold equal ground against. Truth is, there are probably a whole heap of Heros out there now, and these are what we should be looking for and talking about......and breeding from, rather than dogs that hold a loose tedious link to a perceived Legend of old. For the record, I would like to have again, our first collie cross lamping bitch......what a cracker, I could tell some tales on her. All through rose tinted glasses of course This is the future for me. Not everyone's cup of tea and I have no idea where she is gonna take me, but a darn sight more enjoyable than looking back Am glad she is looking forward too! Edited January 6, 2012 by tia.kins 2 Quote Link to post
salclalin 240 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Gelert was actualy a MYTH, he never happened !! The same myth is told around the world...a good stoty but no truer than Jack Londons White Fang, or Call Of The Wild" !! Cheers. Gutted now.I was told my Bitch was a Direct Descendant from Him. 1 Quote Link to post
Guest edrd Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 A fantasic anwser Tia.kins Quote Link to post
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