lesson for thoughs who dont use a locator

[The one 8,398]

'Veedublee' timestamp='1325204855' post='2409561']

['inan' timestamp=1325201490' post='2409493]

The one' timestamp='1325201241' post='2409485']

'Veedublee' timestamp='1325200799' post='2409470']

Some people on here think they're gods gift to ferreting.

 

Why do pro ferreters use locators? Because it adds rabbits to the bag. That's their fecking job. Out to catch rabbits and eliminate the problem that somebody has.

 

There's s difference between somebody ferreting for a job and somebody ferreting for fun. I've never had any problems without using a locator, once I find the time to get my collar fixed I will use one. It's not a big deal. I

Know people who have dug down 7ft to a collar and no ferret. That's £££ sitting 7 foot below ground, who's wasting time digging then? Lol

 

Loads of you's must think your above others because you've got the latest mk3 with various collars and like to tell us how hard you've worked for them. I sit in the fence on this debate. I prefer a collar but if you don't have one for whatever reason then oh well.

 

 

Some ridiculous comments coming out, at the end of the day. Who gives a sh!t what you've got, how many more rabbits you get than me or how you've got the best gear. I know people on here who use them, don't use them and it's irrelevant to the outcome. Everybody gets out, does some ferreting and it doesn't matter what you bring home for the freezer.

 

You can pull situations out of thin air....... What if a burrow collapsed, what if your ferret found 10kg of chicken wings and ferret kibble with a water bottle 8foot underground..... Blah blah blah.

 

Next you's will be knocking us for not using duracel batteries in the locator.

 

 

Whats the bad mood for mate ,its only the internet The Master might take you under his wing on Saturday on your doorstep And again on the fourth a good two hours away and show you why you need a locator . Working different ground each week Feck knows what to except but i know one thing for sure there wont be a post or picts on here

NO, he doesn't post pics on here, too many doughnuts, and wanabees , he puts them on other sites.

 

 

What's that meant to mean?

 

 

Just the usual shit on T.H.L.

[KittleRox 2,147]

[johnny boy68 11,725]

Question to the OP did these pro ferreters you were out with not teach you the most basic of rules when using a locater.

 

Always check your batteries, so before you start preaching about using locaters you really should be a bit more dilligant.

[micky 3,325]

both my grandfathers were life long ferreters, they were netting rabbits rabbits before the first world war and continued up to the 1970s , now these two lads never claimed to know everything, but most people who knew them ,would say, they knew a bit.

When i first took them out using my new ferret locator ,some time in the mid 60s they both thought that, they were the best thing to come out since sliced bread, now these two lads were very old fashioned in there ways ,they both thought the way things were done in the 1800s was good enough for the 1960s ,well after that first morning all those years ago ,they never went out again, without a box and collars ,old fashioned they may have been ,but they did not lack common sense.

[stealthy1 3,964]

Arnt locators great

[fieldsportsman 107]

Been ferreting 27 odd years never lost a ferret, can't afford a locater and don't think I'd buy one even if I could.

 

Does that mean I don't care for my ferrets or shouldn't be ferreting, like feck does it.If my ferret kills just give it a squeak and out she toddles, if she's stuck behind a rabbit I'll block her in and get her in the morning.......simples.

Been ferreting 27 odd years never lost a ferret, can't afford a locater and don't think I'd buy one even if I could.

 

Does that mean I don't care for my ferrets or shouldn't be ferreting, like feck does it.If my ferret kills just give it a squeak and out she toddles, if she's stuck behind a rabbit I'll block her in and get her in the morning.......simples.

And how exactly will you know if she is stuck behind a rabbit , or where that rabbit is,if you have no locator? If you had one you could dig to her, and fetch her out could you not ?

How about if she is trapped in a shaft and can't climb out ? Even the ferrets most receptive to squeeks wont be coming out then will they? And, you won't have a clue where it is will you? But perhaps, you employ a type of ferret telepathy?

 

Simples? I quite agree.

 

Why would you prefer to take a day off work to retrieve a ferret next day ,you could have taken home that day,IF you had a locator with you ?

Would that not save coming back the next day, and the possibility she has moved off her kill and is now a couple of acres away somewhere else?

That would be very popular on a game shoot, or poultry farm.

I've met a few pro ferreters whose living is taking rabbits, ALL employ locators.

Firstly I'm not a pro ferreter.

Secondly I don't work.

Thirdly I've never lost a ferret.

 

I once trenched a fox earth about 35 foot following the tube into a mountainside retrieved terrier and fox, going 10 foot for a fert is childs play, now run along and preach to somebody who actually gives a feck.

not been cocky mate, but have considred working, perhaps then you could buy one

[johnny boy68 11,725]

Been ferreting 27 odd years never lost a ferret, can't afford a locater and don't think I'd buy one even if I could.

 

Does that mean I don't care for my ferrets or shouldn't be ferreting, like feck does it.If my ferret kills just give it a squeak and out she toddles, if she's stuck behind a rabbit I'll block her in and get her in the morning.......simples.

Been ferreting 27 odd years never lost a ferret, can't afford a locater and don't think I'd buy one even if I could.

 

Does that mean I don't care for my ferrets or shouldn't be ferreting, like feck does it.If my ferret kills just give it a squeak and out she toddles, if she's stuck behind a rabbit I'll block her in and get her in the morning.......simples.

And how exactly will you know if she is stuck behind a rabbit , or where that rabbit is,if you have no locator? If you had one you could dig to her, and fetch her out could you not ?

How about if she is trapped in a shaft and can't climb out ? Even the ferrets most receptive to squeeks wont be coming out then will they? And, you won't have a clue where it is will you? But perhaps, you employ a type of ferret telepathy?

 

Simples? I quite agree.

 

Why would you prefer to take a day off work to retrieve a ferret next day ,you could have taken home that day,IF you had a locator with you ?

Would that not save coming back the next day, and the possibility she has moved off her kill and is now a couple of acres away somewhere else?

That would be very popular on a game shoot, or poultry farm.

I've met a few pro ferreters whose living is taking rabbits, ALL employ locators.

Firstly I'm not a pro ferreter.

Secondly I don't work.

Thirdly I've never lost a ferret.

 

I once trenched a fox earth about 35 foot following the tube into a mountainside retrieved terrier and fox, going 10 foot for a fert is childs play, now run along and preach to somebody who actually gives a feck.

not been cocky mate, but have considred working, perhaps then you could buy one

I ain't out of work through choice young fella and even when I was working up until 2 months ago I never felt the need to buy one.

 

I understand the benefits to owning a locater and what they can bring to the pest controller etc but £200 is a lot of money and money I could find much better uses for like buying my kids shoes etc.

 

And truthfully anything anybody says will not convince me they are an "essential" bit of kit.

[inan 841]

Cant afford a locator work harder to afford one or dont go ferretting .

 

Thats my opinion i saved up and now got 15 mk1 3 clicker boxs all though saving and working hard.

 

A ferret may cost a tenner but ever one of ours is worth as must a s a good lurcher as I see so many poorly handled ferts I then realize how goods the missus is at caring and training our ferts.

 

ATB Cookie

 

Agree with most things you say . . . . . . but not going ferreting because you cannot afford a locator, or suggesting that one does not value ones ferrets if one doesnt use one . . . . . . is bollocks!

 

We are now in the 21st century our predcessors use to work without such technologly but we now have the chance to increase the chance of retriving a lossed ferret with £200 or cash FACT.

I feel that if a hunter can afford a computer and internet connection then his priorty is not with his ferrets as I would willing give up my luxuries in life to fund a must have tool in todays modern ferreting world.

 

And to say I talking bollocks just no need just say you disgree with my statement.

 

ATB Cookie

 

I say that you are talking bollocks my friend, because you are indeed talking utter bollocks.

 

It's simple.

 

I wasn't talking about any members of THL and the choice of luxuries in life vs a ferret locator blah blah blah. Imagine a young lad just starting out, around 14. Able to get out and about himself, owns a couple of ferrets that he looks after very well. He's keen as hell and loves to get out whenever he can, he has been gifted a few nets off older folk, or maybe there were his dads old ones. He borrows a spade, maybe has a wee marking mongrel if he's lucky, or one that he can borrow, maybe not. But what he can't afford is £200 for a disco carrot, and he doesn't come from the kind of family who give £200 xmas presents. He is smart with what he ferrets, and how he ferrets, and he has some great sport. He has never lost a ferret.

 

Would you look down on him, from perched upon your quad, and tell he he obviously doesnt care about his ferrets and should stop going ferreting.

 

No, because he is the future of the sport, and alot of us at one point.

 

Oh, and i hate folk who say 'FACT' at the end of a statement as if it some how makes that statement an actual fact. What's that all about?

I would not look down on anyone ,but I would hope that if a youngster was starting out today, he would get better guidance about the sport of rabbiting than some of the posts on here suggest would be the case.

When I was a kid, old poachers said feed ferrets on bread and milk,, if they are savage ,snap off their eye teeth, if you get a lay up ,use a big old hob as a liner ferret to move the pug off its coney, thankfully we have moved on,well most of us have.

 

 

 

Not being funny mate, but you reply to my perfectly resonable post with a load of shit.

 

Where did anyone talk about feeding ferrets bred and milk, snapping their eye teeth etc

 

You can 'guide' a young kid to get a locator all you like, but if he cant buy one, he cant buy one. And in my opinion, that shouldnt stop him ferreting, or in fact ferreting successfuly.

 

What terrible advise would one gleen on here out of intrest?

 

 

How about giving us your methods of retrieving that laid up ferret?

 

inan, i don't want to argue with you, and i NEVER said i didn't use a locator. I just tried to make the point that there are occaisons in todays world where some one goes ferreting without a locator, and it's ok, and doesn't mean that they don't care about their ferrets blah blah blah.

Edited December 31, 2011 by inan

[inan 841]

Been ferreting 27 odd years never lost a ferret, can't afford a locater and don't think I'd buy one even if I could.

 

Does that mean I don't care for my ferrets or shouldn't be ferreting, like feck does it.If my ferret kills just give it a squeak and out she toddles, if she's stuck behind a rabbit I'll block her in and get her in the morning.......simples.

Been ferreting 27 odd years never lost a ferret, can't afford a locater and don't think I'd buy one even if I could.

 

Does that mean I don't care for my ferrets or shouldn't be ferreting, like feck does it.If my ferret kills just give it a squeak and out she toddles, if she's stuck behind a rabbit I'll block her in and get her in the morning.......simples.

And how exactly will you know if she is stuck behind a rabbit , or where that rabbit is,if you have no locator? If you had one you could dig to her, and fetch her out could you not ?

How about if she is trapped in a shaft and can't climb out ? Even the ferrets most receptive to squeeks wont be coming out then will they? And, you won't have a clue where it is will you? But perhaps, you employ a type of ferret telepathy?

 

Simples? I quite agree.

 

Why would you prefer to take a day off work to retrieve a ferret next day ,you could have taken home that day,IF you had a locator with you ?

Would that not save coming back the next day, and the possibility she has moved off her kill and is now a couple of acres away somewhere else?

That would be very popular on a game shoot, or poultry farm.

I've met a few pro ferreters whose living is taking rabbits, ALL employ locators.

Firstly I'm not a pro ferreter.

Secondly I don't work.

Thirdly I've never lost a ferret.

 

I once trenched a fox earth about 35 foot following the tube into a mountainside retrieved terrier and fox, going 10 foot for a fert is childs play, now run along and preach to somebody who actually gives a feck.

not been cocky mate, but have considred working, perhaps then you could buy one

I ain't out of work through choice young fella and even when I was working up until 2 months ago I never felt the need to buy one.

 

I understand the benefits to owning a locater and what they can bring to the pest controller etc but £200 is a lot of money and money I could find much better uses for like buying my kids shoes etc.

 

And truthfully anything anybody says will convince me they are an "essential" bit of kit.

Edited December 31, 2011 by inan

[inan 841]

Question to the OP did these pro ferreters you were out with not teach you the most basic of rules when using a locater.

 

Always check your batteries, so before you start preaching about using locaters you really should be a bit more dilligant.

Edited December 31, 2011 by inan

[Ideation 8,216]

Cant afford a locator work harder to afford one or dont go ferretting .

 

Thats my opinion i saved up and now got 15 mk1 3 clicker boxs all though saving and working hard.

 

A ferret may cost a tenner but ever one of ours is worth as must a s a good lurcher as I see so many poorly handled ferts I then realize how goods the missus is at caring and training our ferts.

 

ATB Cookie

 

Agree with most things you say . . . . . . but not going ferreting because you cannot afford a locator, or suggesting that one does not value ones ferrets if one doesnt use one . . . . . . is bollocks!

 

We are now in the 21st century our predcessors use to work without such technologly but we now have the chance to increase the chance of retriving a lossed ferret with £200 or cash FACT.

I feel that if a hunter can afford a computer and internet connection then his priorty is not with his ferrets as I would willing give up my luxuries in life to fund a must have tool in todays modern ferreting world.

 

And to say I talking bollocks just no need just say you disgree with my statement.

 

ATB Cookie

 

I say that you are talking bollocks my friend, because you are indeed talking utter bollocks.

 

It's simple.

 

I wasn't talking about any members of THL and the choice of luxuries in life vs a ferret locator blah blah blah. Imagine a young lad just starting out, around 14. Able to get out and about himself, owns a couple of ferrets that he looks after very well. He's keen as hell and loves to get out whenever he can, he has been gifted a few nets off older folk, or maybe there were his dads old ones. He borrows a spade, maybe has a wee marking mongrel if he's lucky, or one that he can borrow, maybe not. But what he can't afford is £200 for a disco carrot, and he doesn't come from the kind of family who give £200 xmas presents. He is smart with what he ferrets, and how he ferrets, and he has some great sport. He has never lost a ferret.

 

Would you look down on him, from perched upon your quad, and tell he he obviously doesnt care about his ferrets and should stop going ferreting.

 

No, because he is the future of the sport, and alot of us at one point.

 

Oh, and i hate folk who say 'FACT' at the end of a statement as if it some how makes that statement an actual fact. What's that all about?

I would not look down on anyone ,but I would hope that if a youngster was starting out today, he would get better guidance about the sport of rabbiting than some of the posts on here suggest would be the case.

When I was a kid, old poachers said feed ferrets on bread and milk,, if they are savage ,snap off their eye teeth, if you get a lay up ,use a big old hob as a liner ferret to move the pug off its coney, thankfully we have moved on,well most of us have.

 

 

 

Not being funny mate, but you reply to my perfectly resonable post with a load of shit.

 

Where did anyone talk about feeding ferrets bred and milk, snapping their eye teeth etc

 

You can 'guide' a young kid to get a locator all you like, but if he cant buy one, he cant buy one. And in my opinion, that shouldnt stop him ferreting, or in fact ferreting successfuly.

 

What terrible advise would one gleen on here out of intrest?

 

 

How about giving us your methods of retrieving that laid up ferret?

 

inan, i don't want to argue with you, and i NEVER said i didn't use a locator. I just tried to make the point that there are occaisons in todays world where some one goes ferreting without a locator, and it's ok, and doesn't mean that they don't care about their ferrets blah blah blah.

I don't think you can find one reference to ferret's welfare that I made concerning locators, that being the case ,your reply is redundant.

 

This is getting very THL. I didn't suggest you discussed ferrets welfare - but it has been a feature of this (and previous) discussions on locators. I use one - they are great bits of kit. But i know lads who have the utmost care and respect for their ferrets and do well at the rabbits but who for various reasons dont use locators - mostly not through choice. I'm not looking for an argument about anything, and in fact would personally recommend a locator to anyone starting out, but would also not tell them they must not ferret without one.

[KittleRox 2,147]

I personally find it very interesting that some of the guys who do have locators consider them not to be essential

[B.P.R 2,798]

Oh for fecks sake. The arguments gone from ferreting to spelling lessons. Threads going

Downhill fast with inan and fieldsportsman steering the bus with the

Dictionary hanging out their back

Pockets.

[johnny boy68 11,725]

Question to the OP did these pro ferreters you were out with not teach you the most basic of rules when using a locater.

 

Always check your batteries, so before you start preaching about using locaters you really should be a bit more dilligant.

I don't know if this is intended for me ,but I will answer it.They were not my ferrets , nor my collars. A word to the wise. If you seek to gain any credibility on a matter, It is as well to be able to spell the subject you are lecturing on ,it is LOCATOR, not locater, See ,you can learn something everyday.

Oh and diligent , not diligant.

 

As I said previously, you are full of it,and I don't mean useful advice.

No it wasnt meant for you has you weren't the OP(original poster) as I've said I don't own a "locator" and I don't care what you think, I know I'm not full of it and plenty who've met me know I'm not too.If all you can do is pick me up on a few spelling mistakes then you really are a sad man, now tell me WHY I need a ferret finder when I've not lost a ferret in 27 years? Explain to me how they're an essential piece of kit, not handy, essential !!

 

And has I said to others come and have a day out and watch what my animals can do then tell me I'm full of shit, I consider myself quite an adept hunter and that dosen't include just killing a few bunnies you see "old wise one" not everybodies the same in real life as on a computer.

 

I tried not to make any spelling mistakes this time aswell.

[Qbgrey 3,987]

they are a usefull bit of kit,and save a lot of time.i use them not expensive ones just old crappy mk1s,my ferrets dont stay long on a kill/stop end,etc and if the jills are down without a collar and dont show i just chuck my polecat hob down and they soon come out.

i find them usefull if 3 ferretrs are down i can tell if ones killed,and were the others are and if they may be moving,or on another .and doing hedge rows a locator each end turned on will tell me if they travelled too far up,if im by myself i cam manage them better .id say not essential depending on what your ferrets are like,if you got a layer and stayer for hours,day,then they need a collar imho.