Nik_B 3,790 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 No I bite their ears Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 No I bite their ears I think this is the reason Ollie has went wrong................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 No I bite their ears Better than battering their c**t in with a good length of alcathene pipe I suppose. FTB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 No I bite their ears Better than battering their c**t in with a good length of alcathene pipe I suppose. FTB Your giving the tricks of the trade away now.................. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,593 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 No I bite their ears Better than battering their c**t in with a good length of alcathene pipe I suppose. FTB dread to think what techniques labs parents used for him to end up like he has!!!! the only parents in the world to use a cucumber to punish their child!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 No I bite their ears Better than battering their c**t in with a good length of alcathene pipe I suppose. FTB dread to think what techniques labs parents used for him to end up like he has!!!! the only parents in the world to use a cucumber to punish their child!!! I wish it was just a cucumber.............. I'm away to lie down for a while, thanks very much Rob.................. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sirius 1,358 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Typical THL, get an argument about anything even when given the facts people want a punch up. Maybe get out of the dark ages with your dominance training and start thinking about it, who know what you might achieve with your dogs. Personal i like a bit of dominance but that's only in the bedroom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,593 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Typical THL, get an argument about anything even when given the facts people want a punch up. Maybe get out of the dark ages with your dominance training and start thinking about it, who know what you might achieve with your dogs. Personal i like a bit of dominance but that's only in the bedroom Facts??? I thought that was just your opinion....bloody arrogant if you think your opinions are facts! And it's called a discussion, but I guess if you're so convinced you must be right then it's not possible to have a discussion. As for the dominance being in the dark ages....it's called nature, and that doesn't change with trends! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,251 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 I have started using my dog training techniques on my kids it's working a treat me to can whistle him to heel but get funny looks in asda when using the clicker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mooch. 177 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 I have started using my dog training techniques on my kids it's working a treat You've sent them away for residential training What a good idea, can I have the trainers number! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,593 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 I have started using my dog training techniques on my kids it's working a treat me to can whistle him to heel but get funny looks in asda when using the clicker luckily when he goes in LIDL and uses his shock collar he fits in fine so noone bats an eyelid! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,630 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 It's all very well people shouting off on the forum," I would kick the dog" or I would do what ever. But maybe just think about what the implications are if that was aired on TV to the general public??!! More idiot walking the streets thinking it's OK to kick dogs in the name of training. And that I think is the point. Alot of this dominance theory in dog training is proven to incorrect, almost as bad as Barabara Woodhouse crimes to dogs and dog training. Would you vary your methods for different breeds? A terrier type always benefits from a firm hand and clear boundries, its what they understand best in their small thuggish little brain (imho) where as, as we all know, taking a tough line with a saluki type is mostly a waste of time and counter productive (same for almost any dog with saluki in the mix) Manwork dogs (again jmho) require mostly trained with your mind with the VERY rare instance of firm hand thrown in now and again. So are your saying that reward type training is a one size fits all, works for everything method? Just interested in the subject Oh, and as for that JR........In a family environment......it should have been shot!..........if it had of been a big dog, the RSPCA would come round and do it for you 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 I have started using my dog training techniques on my kids it's working a treat You've sent them away for residential training What a good idea, can I have the trainers number! After 2 days they got sent home again for whining in the kennel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Different techniques for different dogs, many dogs will respond positivley to food reward based training or play reward and others have a very different attitude and need a firm hand and sometimes a correction, and correction and firm hand is NOT a euphamism for beat the shit out of it.......... I was paid to deal with problem dogs on the side aswell as doing my obedience/tracking and manwork.....All these areas required different techniques, as wilf said when training manwork dogs getting physical is totally the wrong idea, the dog is often in a hightened sense of excitement and physical corrections will just rev the dog up and whats needed is a calm approach. I hate the current "use an electric collar" standard response, mainly as nowdays folk are lazy and want a quick fix, i have used electric collars in the past, they have their uses but these are limited and should only be used by a trainer with experience. The "boy" in the footage in my humble opinion is shite, BUT although i think his methods are pish i think "Mountains and molehill" springs to mind, nowdays less physical corrections are used nowdays which is good but this pampered nanny state and many owners should realise that not all dogs are trained with liver and a squeeky voice...... P.S. Read Konrad Mosts training books, his methods would make most wince including myself BUT he turned around a lot of dogs that would of been shot and turned them into amazing animals............ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,791 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Ive always found the internal workings of a dogs mind a fascinating subject.....for me the difference between a good/bad trainer is just how well a person can connect with a dogs mind.....i believe every dog must be treated as an individual regardless of breed you cant say all Jack Russells should be trained like this and Spaniels should be trained like this.....naturally certain breeds are going to carry some traits stronger than others but they still all need a different outlook when it comes to training......and in my opinion being able to read a dog through the very basic connection you have with him is a quality very few people have. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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