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No. Not really. I would dearly love to have a type of dog that I have owned or could borrow in the past to let off the lead and try better to explain to the people with large dogs why they should keep them on a lead until we can establish that their large dogs do not want to try and kill my terriers.
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Yes, true, but when rearing game birds became a "thing" in England and people and means were needed to stop others "stealing" them, the type of dogs that had already existed in the past were not readily available or breeding true. Hence the Bull Mastiff was produced. The only type of dog that I never quite trust, however fat and useless that they are now. That's not true as I also don't trust American Bulldogs and any spitz breed bigger than a terrier.
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Regarding the "real gamekeepers night dog" post, that was 19th century England and the Bull Mastiff was developed to catch and kill people. It was ok back then as the people who owned the country estates made the laws and ran the world. They still do to some extent but a night dog killing a man eventually caused problems for them so stuff from Germany (farm dogs) replaced the English night dogs. At one time in English law if your dog killed a man all the owner had to do was pay the value of the dog to the family of the deceased man if he was adjudged to be the sole bread owner.
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This is the dog that I was referring to. By a Patterdale (with small % of Bedlington) over a working ESS bitch. I have tried all afternoon to get a decent photograph of him using my phone but failed. The pics do not do him justice but he's a very well put together dog. Not mine but the owner said it would be ok to post pictures of him.
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He's been dead for a long time. Work is still made with his trademark.
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Whoops, talk about preaching to the choir ? you've probably forgotten more about the pro sport than I've learned. Didn't realise.
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Pro sport. Nicest rifle of any power source air or live firing ever made IMO.
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Have nothing in your house that is not beautiful or functional
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Looks what would be called arts and crafts style in England, late 19th early 20th century. Just a guess but nice. £150 at auction £1500 in a shop ?
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I think it would be fair to say that 1st well known and recorded use of an out cross was by George Newcombe. I am only going on things that I have read and did not know him but apparently the reason behind the outcross was not due anything lacking in his Bedlingtons but becoming too closely bred and he did not consider unrelated Bedlingtons worthy of introducing into his own strain as a means of making the gene pool healthier.
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English Bull Terriers
eastcoast replied to WorkingBullandTerrier's topic in Earthdogs & Working Terriers
I came across this today when looking through some old mags. Off topic of the thread and of historical interest only of course but maybe of interest in regard to the bull types being used in fairly recent years in a working capacity? The breed listed as Bull Terrier I assume to be EBT. Not many listed. Interesting to me are the breeds listed in the "sounder" column. Nothing described as a Patterdale. Not saying that Patterdales were not being used for proper work in the field at that time in Ireland though and the name itself was probably not in common use at that time in the UK or the Republ -
My introduction to those parts of the Tyne was tagging along with my dad and his mate when they went digging for ragworm. It was filthy back then with turds and condoms bobbing about in the water. Somehow the ragworm thrived but it was hard graft. They could only be found below high tide level which was completely covered in lose rock. The trick was to dig quickly on the edge of the ebbing tide before they went too deep. Maybe they had evolved like that due to constant overdigging on the easy parts, a bit like trying to catch rabbits on heavily lamped land? My dad and his mate would work in ta
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I stand corrected, my apologies. Even back in the day I did not know that anything other than rats or feral cats lived there.
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North Shield fish quays? North Shields? When it was in rack and ruin we hunted rats and no one owned the cats. A nice place now but no animals live there apart from sea birds and rats.
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There also used to be a lot of feral cats around in that place. All changed now though.
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Do the people who try and keep the Bedlington type alive as a working terrier do so in the hope that they will have a strain of the perfect working terrier? I don't think so but I have never owned one and it has been a good few years since I knew someone who did, but people still seem to be trying to keep an old English breed alive as working dog. Good luck to them.
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I've seen the odd 1 with white patches, piebold but brown and white
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Castrating a bushing terrier
eastcoast replied to Aussie Whip's topic in Earthdogs & Working Terriers
We had a cross bred terrier type when I was a kid that was a difficult animal. A fighter with other dogs, a pain with bitches even when not in heat and dodgy with people. Castrating him did not change him. He lived longer than he probably should have due to me defending him but got pts at 8 year old. But he was useless as a pet and later at my attempts to hunt with him and had no breeding worth carrying on. Does that description fit your terrier? I think that he may warrant a bit more time with his bollocks, taking them off I doubt will change him. They do calm down with age and graft. -
Thank you for the reply morton. I have not owned a Bedlington but hope to one day. The most time that I have spent with the breed was when a friend who lived next to me got one and lost interest in him. The man was into terriers and working them but the Beddy ended up too big for his criteria but fair play to him he kept it until its' death. I used to take it out for exercise and general rabbiting and ratting type stuff with my terriers. He was purely a digging man and his dogs spent most of their life in kennels :-). It was a shy reserved type of dog initially but gained in confidence and lo
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Do you give any credence to the theory that some primitive type of water dog, pre-curly coated retriever or Irish water spaniel, may be in the Bedlington way back and account for some of it's unique, or at least none typical terrier qualities?
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I would expect emailing the man would not be of any benefit other than boosting his ego and making him think that he is a proper journalist. But passing off lies as fact to the generally uninterested public is something that does bother me. The masses may have little real interest in what goes on in the countryside but if they knew the facts would possibly be less compliant with those in positions of power making radical changes due to their own personal agenda rather what is beneficial to the environment. We had the Hunting Act of course that was geared towards stopping hunting with dogs and
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letters@the-sun.co.uk.
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I may write to the Sun. Used to do that sort of thing. But these days it feels like trying to fight a battle in a war that has already been lost.
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I don't buy newspapers these days and was not a fan of the Sun when I did but came across this today when doing a bit of cleaning at a family member's house. Not sure how readable the scan is but basically some "journalist" at the Sun who has obviously never set foot on a grouse moor has given his readers the low down. I used to be far more philosophical when coming across anti - shooting/hunting attitudes, it is only to be expected in a nation of animal lovers even though most of their opinion is based on a total ignorance of the thing that disapprove of and hypocrisy as their love of anima
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Does anyone know if the floral arrangement in the Wycombe Wanderers function room is any good?
