You two are making me think a bit now. Im would consider myself a half decent shot, from my preferred shooting position, either springer, 98 or 97, Ill ping 5 pees all day long at any distance within reason, but, take me out of my comfort zone, like the knee, or prone, Im wank, standing supported is kinda ok. Its something I must work on though. Viz. 60 paces, when stance are you shooting? Thats a long way man.