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Alsone

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  1. There's only 3/4 of a pound difference between the two. Are you really saying you can't carry 8.5 pounds all day as opposed to 7.75? It seems heavy vs light is opinion that divides the shooting world: http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/bull-barrels-36165/ I think some of it will come down to personal build as well. If you're ten or eleven stone you might want a lighter gun. If you're 6ft+ and 15+ stone (fit not flab), then a heavy barrelled weapon will probably not bother you for carrying in the slightest. I tend to be a bit sceptical of people who say they can't ca
  2. What Seeker said plus (and that's one hell of a crosswind): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yovUXvl_9Ys
  3. right up to a war & some !...... I don't know I'd rather take a.338 Lapua than a 50 cal. Well don't come crying to me if you have a runaway truck heading for your house and you need to shoot out the engine block. It'll be alright, it will just fall into the moat I'll have dug around my house.
  4. right up to a war & some !...... I don't know I'd rather take a.338 Lapua than a 50 cal.
  5. You got Rhino at the end of your garden Paulus ? Seriously, 338 Lapua is the must have long range calibre if you can get it. Unfortunately the good reason table means most would never get a grant. If I had to list 5 calibres to cover any situation then: .22 LR Bolt Action (for stealth) .17 HMR / WSM (long range rimfire duties) .223 Fox .30-06 Deer .338 Lapua for shooting round at Paulas's House!
  6. Personally out of those I'd keep the .17 HMR and CZ Silhouette .22lr. I reckon with those 2 you cover pretty much any rimfire situation.
  7. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Tenterden&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&gws_rd=cr&ei=B_CxUtngGI6U7QaHsYGADQ#channel=rcs&q=scrap+dealers+tenterden&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&safe=off
  8. Very good simple form. I may adopt it and modify. However,in my opinion, I believe there's a danger in allowing immediate termination without stating the method of communication or having a mandatory notice period for the reasons I've previously mentioned. I also believe the form shouldn't contain a fixed termination date as otherwise your permission will expire and the landowner might not be bothered to re-grant it. Better to make it perpetual and make them terminate it, than have it expire and constantly have to trouble them for renewals, especially where your certificate may depend
  9. On the one hand I can see the aesthetic attraction. On the other hand its not going to be as accurate as a bolt. I think either way in the field if the police get called you're going to be at gun point. I'm not sure having an assault looking rifle is going to make any difference to the public calling the police as at the end of the day, Joe public doesn't know what the rules are regarding guns amd which are permitted and which are not. They just see a man with a gun. Personally I think I'd get bored with the looks very quickly and crave the extra accuracy.
  10. - Irrespective, the more things it covers the better it is as the less chance of an event not covered happening. (Finally got the quote boxes to separate!) Exactly, .17 HMR typically zereo'd at 100 yards which gives 35 inches drop @ 300 yards! I doubt many people would want to take a shot with 35 inches of compensation against live quarry. WSM typically has 1/2 the drop and 1/2 the windage of HMR and can be easily zero'd at out to 150 or even 200 yards and be usable at short range (I believe the typical zero is 150 yards), which means that drops of just 4 inches at 250yd
  11. It's better to be water tight than have things go wrong later. But why buy more rifle than you need? If there's a rimfire capable of despatching squirrels or other vermin / game at out to 300 yards, then why go to the expense of a CF to do the same job? If you already have a CF or want to shoot fox at that range then fair enough, but in the absence of that, WSM seems to fill the hole between LR and CF quite nicely, especially as its unlikely you'll be regularly taking shots at that range anyway. What it gives is flexibility. A rifle that will happily shoot at yards all day for 30p a
  12. That may actually be a very good point Dan. Like I said it was an amalgam of forms and I haven't seen it written anyway in the Acts as to who has the right to grant permission. So its certainly a point that wants checking before using the wording beyond "landowner".
  13. I think the point with termination is provide certainty. Other wise if you got stopped by the police, the landowner could say I saw you last night and told you I'd terminated the permission. I think the point in specifying it to be in writing and by registered post is to prevent exactly that type of situation occuring as the terminations isn't valid unless its in writing and has been sent by registered post. My point in adding 7 days notice is to strenghten that further and reduce any possibility of it being withdrawn without you having read the delivered notice. As for shooting vermin at
  14. You're welcome but it's not mine. It's a combination of several on here. Actually the more I think about it the more sense there is in altering the termination wording to: "This authority remains in force until terminated by myself or appointed agent by giving 7 days notice in Writing using Registered Post" (words in italics only to highlight the change). I don't know what others think here as to whether or not this would be acceptable to landowners but the danger I see is that without the above, what happens if the post arrives one day and you don't get chance to read it and go ou
  15. This is a permission slip I drew up for my own personal use based on several different ones posted on here and with the wording subtly changed. eg The shooter SHOULD have relevant insurance instead of MUST (reason - if it says "must" your permission is potentially invalid if you accidentally let your insurance lapse and that leaves you open to an armed trespass charge). You might want to consider it. However, in putting it up I do so as guidance only. Its up to you to take advice as to whether or not its suitable / fit for purpose and thus I disclaim any liability in the event that
  16. That shouldn't be the case, depending on what permission slip you're using. A permission slip shouldn't specify the calibre only that you have been granted permission by the landowner to shoot on the ground for X species and with permission to bring a guest (if needed). I understand that if it says that and once granted therefore, and unless revoked, you have permission for any calibre suitable for the given species subject to the land being approved for that calibre and the police adding it to your certificate. Only if you add further species do you need a new permission in order to a
  17. Imagine if you got a misfire though and a bullet 1/2 way up the barrel!
  18. Don't know about that. Price is the same as HMR and HMR is still popular. The majority of people don't reload and if you don't then its a cheap round compared to Hornet which comes in at around £40 per 50 (£20 for 25 : http://www.dauntseyguns.co.uk/downloads/AmmoPriceList.pdf) = 3 times the price of WSM. If anything I could potentially see this replacing HMR. Same ammo costs and significantly faster, with more energy and more range. That spells danger for HMR. In the USA .17 WSM is in short supply so its obviously taken off and its launching in Aus in early 2014. Only time
  19. I think you'll find its $15 for 50 rounds. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2900193917/winchester-varmint-high-velocity-ammunition-17-winchester-super-magnum-20-grain-hornady-v-max That's cheap - 30p a round. Not yet available in the UK but it the USA they're having trouble getting ammo stocks. Make of that what you will. Here's one clip at ranges out to 264 yds vs prairie dogs:
  20. Re: Target shooting, yep they joined a club. Deer species - I don't know. I can only presume the estate they go to has Roe on it or a mixture and he's targeting anything and her Roe. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not in anyway saying they aren't responsible, far from it, they're both very responsible. However, I was just surprised to hear they'd got Open Tickets from the off on CF. I know if you're shooting somewhere like Scotland then its difficult to tie you to land because potentially many days are bought in (although they seem to use the same estate). However, I was surprised that t
  21. Yeah Target Shooting Deker. Yeah they got it open because of Deer Stalking in Scotland. I would have thought though that the logical thing the police would have done there though is mentor condition in the shape of being accompanied and supervised by a guide in Scotland and being accompanied by an experienced shooter in England (although they only do Target in England), but it appears not. They are always guided in Scotland which is one bonus but its still an interesting grant. The thing I find slightly irritating is that if I applied to to shoot a .243 on 1st grant in the loca
  22. You see this is where it gets silly. 2 friends of mine had never shot in their life and fancy starting shooting. They applied for rifle range and shooting deer in Scotland. He got a .243 on Open Ticket - 1st grant and she got a .22-250 on Open Ticket 1st Grant, no conditions. Neither of them had ever picked up a firearm before in their lives! I'd bet money that I could apply to the same Force for a .243 for use locally on 1st grant and despite having had a SGC for 15 years would not get it.
  23. I didn't read it properly and think we were talking reds, sorry.
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