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  1. Alsone
    Well that's not what I was actually doing. What I started out doing above was simply putting some considerations forwards for and against having a .243 as a single rifle vs having 2 rifles, 1 fox and 1 deer, mostly based on good reason. I didn't actually recommend any specific calibres only .243 vs larger calibres. Anyway, I'm out of this thread and will leave this to the deer experts.
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    Yeah I'm quite well aware any calibre has the possibility of passing through and I fully endorse your statement that if you don't have a safe backstop you don't shoot period. As for relative meat damage, I can't comment as I don't shoot deer. I only know what decision my mate took as to .243 vs .30-06 and why. I'm presuming with .243 it's down to Hornady tips whereas with larger calibres they often FJSP or SJSP. Yep Dan, I'm quite well aware that .243 is capable of killing any deer. However, there is a fair bit of opinion to say that for the very largest species, you're better
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    Magpie numbers are ridiculous and then the environmentalists are wondering where all the song birds have gone. Duh, maybe it's because you've cut back on shooting without really understanding that shooters actually care about and manage the environment, especially pest species, and keep the environment in balance, not just shoot everything in sight! In my own garden, I have a pond and I regularly have 5 magpies come down together to steal fish food off the surface to eat. Makes for some spectacular fights though! It's like having Fight Club in your own back garden.
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    I would say it depends on what deer you might shoot in the future and whether or not you want two rifles. There are 2 schools of thought here: 1. Get a .243 and have a good all round rifle, albeit one that's a little on the lighter side for the larger deer but great if you're only ever going to shoot fox and small deer 2. Get a .223 for fox and then you have good reason to apply for a heavier calibre for deer later eg. .30-06 or whatever takes your fancy. My mate chose the latter route simply because .223 opened up the possibility of a heavier calibre whereas with .243 being de
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    CF isn't really the best choice for target practice TBH unless you're well healed. Banging off 50 rounds will cost you around £55-60 with a .223. Quite an expensive hour out! Also remember, CF is only legal for zeroing against paper. You need to be more careful with your gun to avoid scope drift.
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    Yeah they will. A lot more shot in a No:3 cartridge, around 70 more in the Solway pictured above (195 total). That said, at 125, BB should pattern quite well as well. Although No:3 do the job, personally, I'd try some No:1 as I reckon No: 1 to BB is about the sweet spot for balancing shot size with pattern / overall shocking. If you go up to AA, then shot drop to around 38 and SG to around 9! Fine at point blank, not so good at greater range where insufficient shot may hit to ensure a clean kill. Others may have other ideas though.
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    Hmm. Brattonsound are starting to sound great on service but less than great on quality. If brass keys are wearing, then why don't they use a harder material? I always envisaged going Brattonsound for quality, but I must admit now I'm not so sure.
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    There's a review here that might help: http://gunsmagazine.com/ruger-american-rifle/ Can't help any further as no experience.
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    Steady on, there'll be people posted videos of elephants killed with no: 6!
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    And just which CF will give you 2000ft lbs down range that any force will grant a first time or for that any fac holder just for fox? .223. (Hornady super performance 40gr has over 2,300ft lbs @ 300 yds.) Feet per second perhaps but not foot/lbs, Muzzle energy on a .223 is between 1300-1400 foot/lbs. Sorry my mistake, mis-read the Hornady site. Still a big difference in energy / velocity though. (Note to self: Never post after going to the pub!)
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    And just which CF will give you 2000ft lbs down range that any force will grant a first time or for that any fac holder just for fox? .223. (Hornady super performance 40gr has over 2,300ft lbs @ 300 yds.)
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    Whereas I don't disagree with what's been said, the only danger in getting a cabinet 1st is that you lose that money in part if you're refused for any reason. One thing I would add to SS's comment above is ensure you're clean health wise as well, as the list of health conditions these days is extensive and may give rise to a refusal. If in doubt, wait until grant. Current health declaration (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/262682/Form_201A_application_notes.pdf): Quite why heart disease or stroke makes you a risk is beyond me!
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    Not seen a certificate in S. Yorks Deker, but I'm guessing they probably condition it against using small calibres against fox when it's otherwise AOLQ. Personally, I'm not against S. York's stance simply because it means you can get a CF at 1st grant instead of having to play around with a .17 with very limited range when foxing, therefore leaving you with little margin for error on shot placement and very marginal killing potential. I'd much rather hit a fox with 2,000ft lbs+ downrange than 100ft lbs or so from .17. There's no doubting 100ftlbs will kill in the right spot, but there's a
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    It's a balance not only between size but number of hits especially with larger prey such as a fox as a single large shot doesn't transmit enough shock to kill. For pigeons and rabbits there's no need to deviate from 32g No:6. It's a pretty universal and hard hitting cartridge, and a proven load. For Fox, No: 3 - AA would be the sensible range. Sweet spot probably No: 1's or BB. Also, with fox, restrict your range to close range only as shotgun pellets don't retain energy over distance. That way you only ever need to carry 2 types of cartridge. Enough No: 6 for the numbers of pi
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    Congrats. As I said above Browning are lovely guns and my number 1 choice for balance. In all honesty, Berretta, Winchester and Browning are all fantastic quality choices. You won't go far wrong with any of those makers.
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    Hear hear Charlie. According to the dictionary foxes are vermin, but i don't believe firearms departments use dictionary definiitions. If they DO mean that, I'd get them to put it in writing. Yeah I debated this in another thread, and it's certainty one I wouldn't like to test,. Not when Fox is ordinarily listed separately from "vermin" on certificates and when it's classified separately in the guidelines. It's always better safe than sorry given the penalties. Well today i spoke to the head of firearms licensing department for north yorkshire and asked his advice on taking fo
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    Agree with Charlie and a Boyds stock is $99 posted!
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    Another way of getting an open ticket could be to book a stalk in Scotland and say you intend to shoot up there as well, as I understand no land is approved up there. The danger is it might be opened for Scotland only although if you have deer shooting in England, they may just open the whole ticket. A couple I know with no previous experience got 1st time grants on .22-250 and .243 totally open on the basis of stalking North of the Border (or so they tell me, I haven't seen the tickets but they swear there's no additional condition with regard to England. I have no reason to doubt but hav
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    Yes i have been out a few times with a friend he has a beretta 682 gold e and a browning ultra xs, i have been using the browning because his fav is the beretta, i have probs only put 30-40 shots through the browning in the last few trips out but i like it, its a solid gun but i find it slightly nose heavy, today i had a few practice shots on his beretta since there were no rabbits about and nothing flying except a bird of prey and i found this to be easier to handle and was very accurate at what i was aiming at, i would have to say it was my fav out of the 2 guns so i think i might up my bud
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    Because they've been vetted by MI5, not just had a CRB check.
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    Has to be Browning or Beretta. I would say try both as they have a very different balance. Personally, I wouldn't give a Beretta the time of day, not because they aren't a good gun, just because in my opinion, Browning balance a lot better. So Browning 525 or 725 all the way from me. That said, you need to try both makes as balance is a personal thing.
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    Guess what I found..........: http://www.shotgun-store.co.uk/red-kite-gunsmiths-alkanet-stock-oil---natural-gun-oil-and-colour-2879-p.asp http://www.avalon-guns.com/avalon/info_55518.html If you want the Purdey Warthog brand then I couldn't find it in the UK, so you might have to import. http://www.jeffsoutfitters.com/store.aspx?panel=3&productid=176&categoryid=1
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    Hear hear Charlie. According to the dictionary foxes are vermin, but i don't believe firearms departments use dictionary definiitions. If they DO mean that, I'd get them to put it in writing. Yeah I debated this in another thread, and it's certainty one I wouldn't like to test,. Not when Fox is ordinarily listed separately from "vermin" on certificates and when it's classified separately in the guidelines. It's always better safe than sorry given the penalties.
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    Ah ok. Wasn't sure if they allowed hornet or if it was .222 / .223 min. Knew it was CF only. i am also in yorkshire alsone……..north yorkshire………..and shoot a .22 rimfire on fox …at reasonable ranges and also have previously used the 17hmr on fox …..both legally…….to say you need a cf is wrong ………says on my conditions ( vermin) ……fox are vermin Different in other regions of Yorkshire. No RF allowed vs fox in my region including HMR (at least for good reason). I haven't seen an FAC from round here to what conditions are imposed.
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    Ah ok. Wasn't sure if they allowed hornet or if it was .222 / .223 min. Knew it was CF only.
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