tomo i can nearly guarantee woodga will never go back to this way ,yes people will catch rabbits at that height some do ,but a lot more will be missed ,woodga taught me and am gratefull for being shown the correct method for accounting for a lot of rabbits ,again there is a lot of myths surrounding snaring height placement etc , but catches speak for them selves ,theres only one thing i have to say on the warreners way well two then " bullseye" and great peice of kit from deben :whistle: somepeople will understand :whistle: