thats the kind of reply i was after tomo name the fact and the breeding.youv all miss understood about the bull xs. the reason i said no bull crosses bover is in my expereince of seing loads of real coursing animals is none were strait bull crosses. sure rambo had bull in him and if you looked at most coursing dogs lines there not always just saluki greys and theres bedlington, collie, deerhound even hound (apperantlie in j.ds ladeys case) and yes bulls back many generations. but these are a world away from the people saying my big headed fox cruncher who if the truth be told would do very wel