thanks lads for a decent discussion here ,it seems most if not all are sensible experienced hunters who obviously know the game , a lot of my land borders national trust land when has huge pops of rabbits ,b ut the farmer is a nature lover & i dont shoot only when he tells me too clear some ,i like to leave plenty for my ferreting forays ,he is happy i am happy ,some of my other pals shoot 100s each week they have to as there are 1000s on the land they control , so each to his own as you say , as i said before sensible replies from experienced lads thanks