your all saying about this crap "loose lips sikn ships" and that, but why say that, my staff works as in bushes catches rabbits on lamp and in cover, shes a cracker at finding foxs to dig to and dispatch humainly, so what get them out, has helped me alot with advice for my bitch and i wouldnt have the dog i have today if it werent for him, so dont slate him, my dog works well at what i use her for and am very proud of her, i love waching her work, just a shame more people dont think about staffs as a hunting dog, be good if there was a group or association for working staffs, maybe its an idea