i think your wrong to say keep them out of shows, surely rules could be put in place to allow such shows, e,g, muzzled dogs, you cant tar every bull owner with the same brush, were not all in it to look good (strange thing to say on the topic of shows lol) not every one wants there dog to be harder than his mates,, i think and im sure alot of other people would agree, that bull terriers should be aloud to be shown in a working terrier show, cheers samstorm