I'm a brit living in finland, i work jagd to fox, coondog and billy. they're as good as owt, no better no worse. theres lines kept for above ground hunting, and lines kept for below, i only keep below and they'll die in a hole for you. take your pick but don't slag dogs off you've never had experience of. oh and yes i had 1 that never went to ground until the day i burried him, but had failures with patts too