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Get the pup coming into your space bud, no corrections of any sort even for things like jumping up or actions which make you aggressive or threatening , if a dog feels threatened he reverts to instinct which is safety first, looking after number 1 which isn't forming a group mind with the two of you, pack instincts is not the way forward with a sensitive dog like a lurcher , instincts are fear based, you dont need to be seen as the alpha to get the best out of a dog, it just instills fear which is untrainable, i would work on the relationship, ive been flogging the hand feeding idea on he
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i work a dog on the premise that stop or any other command will introduce or produce more energy for the dog, what drives a dog is Potential energy that how a dog operates, its always whats round the corner , a bird in the hand is not worth two in the bush to a canine mind, the two in the bush is what keeps every dog hunting and listening to commands, so even if i want a dog to stop doing something the command has got to produce an excited interested mindset in the dog, recall becomes come and see what i have to throw for you, there are no negative consequences only positive association
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feed him out of your hand in your space, the difference between raw and dry is that the raw has a much higher value to the dog in how he see's it , its not that the meat is driving him nuts and aggressive , its the value he himself is putting on it, from the start i get pups coming into my space to eat, it overcomes fear, it cuts out all aggression with food and people, pups get used to eating out of a bowl( held in the hand) or from your hand with folk passing by, my reading on that situation is fear in your dog not dominance,,
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your instructions need to be able to stimulate him , stubborn is just a term for words or commands that dont mean anything to the dog , a dog dont suddenly decide to disobey its owner , how come it always responds as a pup , 1 is that its completely open to its owner , its owner is its avenue to food and eating is what its programmed to do, there are no other real distractions in its life, therefore it always responds but is it trained,no 2 is that its drive hasn't kicked in, so its not pulled in different directions , drive is a drive to make contact to mouth something, if we dont w
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good points well made, i understand where your coming from and there is no doubt about it they are some of the fittest athlete's in sport today and respect to them but i would still per fare Pride and the rawness of their approach to a fighting competition, maybe its just that some match ups in ufc are so over-hyped and just dont live up to the expectation,,
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what im saying is things would be alot more transparent if they were all free agents like boxing , is Holyfield still boxing?? dont get me wrong im a big fan of mma but it appears that if you get well settled in with the powers that be in ufc , a fighter can be carried,
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The big problem with the UFC is that all the fighters are working for the same paymaster, they are all in the same company, a big buddy's club all trying to turn over a few bucks, So when a fighter like Nick Dias comes along and cant play by company rules by his very nature, he cant do the buddy/buddy approach to a fight, he seen as a problem and who and when he fights or if he fights at all can effect his career, fighters generally toe the line, until we have a situation where the fighters arn't just taking a wage from the same employer i mean if the ufc really wants to be taken ser
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mma is still evolving, it takes what works from all forms of martial arts, nobody involved in mma has all the answers, thats what makes it so interesting, even a slight advantage in whatever form it takes, even from a nobhead can make a difference, keep an open mind,
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ok bud , it may be a big mongrel but if its half guard dog the fear it has at the minute becomes explosive as it ages, on the whole most guarding breeds protection dogs express when under stress outwardly , biting barking growling , whereas most running dogs, sight hounds, whippets, bird dogs are imploders internalize stress/fear, flight instead or fight in order words, with that said i would looking for the pup to overcome as much fear as possible as far as humans go , Feed in your space all meals , at your feet, out of your hand, out of the hand is better, not treats all its food, hun
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dog classes are training in a false environment in the same way the mutt will respond in the garden and in classes but will not respond in a field and are not worth a jot to ya, your dog has show his drive is turned on entering a field, no question, not in the garden or anywhere else so that is where you need control, do all your bonding and training in fields anything else is a waste of time , you need to be able to work with the mutts drive stimulated mind not in a different mindset,he learns quicker in drive than any other state of mind, you control his drive you control the dog simple
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the basis of any good relationship is a shared emotional bond, in as much as employers sent employees away together to share an emotional experience be it a challenge together or a similar experience it brings a closeness between members of staff through a shared emotional experience, most close friends have a shared emotional bond and its the same with the mutt, if you can get good emotional experiences between you, the old owner will be forgotten in no time, it will make you more exciting to the dog, and how you develop emotional bonds with dogs is by getting their drive energy flowi
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i make no bones about it its the thrill of the chase is what does it for me, a good dog a good hare and the ability in the owner to appreciate two of natures finest athletes, nothing like the feeling you get when a big hare gets up in front of your dog, when you not getting that buzz anymore your better off taking up stamp collection or in watching eastenders, the food is a bonus but its secondary, maybe its the same difference as in a dog as a tool like a gun or a dog as a hunting partner, if i wasn't getting a buzz from it i'd jack it in,,
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hunger helps to over come fear, her fear is all in her head, an instinctive response to the sight of a predator(stranger), completely natural if badly socialised and not a learnt behavior because its an instinct, what needs to happen is to learn a behavior associated with strangers through referencing her gut through hunger i would set up a situation where she only eats after been approached by a stranger, the more fear she overcomes to eat basically the more fear she overcomes, if you think of it as a scales , her fear of people far outweighs her referencing her gut or taking foo
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start pumping the grub into her bud, you got plenty of time to work on training and the like ,,best of luck with her
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there are alot of misunderstandings out there as far as dogs go, especially what is expected from pups, we expect a different species as in the dog to be completely civilized within a few months of coming into the home and in reality we dont expect it from any other animal or human children credit to the dog because they have the capacity to adapt to what they must perceive as a totally stressful environment, it just shows the terrific ability in the animal that more of them dont end up chewing us up i can understand what your saying Penny but i feel whether someone is loud or quiet both
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Birddog ,i can see from what you've written that your little bitch must be a pleasure to own, she also has you deeply ingrained in her drive process, her ability to practice impulse control shows she has the ability to prolong the drive process for the greater good of the group and that shows a really strong understanding on both parts, your not a million miles from been able to call her off a chase in the right circumstance,if ya cant already, all we can do on these threads is too generalize about different breeds, there are some really tight man/dog bonds in every canine sport, sometimes
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Casso, Two things I would like to follow up, firstly training through 'Drive' for a Lurcher, how would you example this form of training? I can see with Gundogs that after initial obedience has been instilled, hunting a Spaniel over ground that has had game recently on it, but longer present, will stimulate the dogs 'Drive' and further training can be carried out in this state. How does one stimulate a predominately sight hound? Secondly, Morton suggests that overall, that the Lurcher cross as already suggested, would benefit from a more sensitive training approach in comparison to
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as the man said, your doing a fine job lad, play should form the basis for training , sounds like you've got it nailed, one word of warning lad over the next couple of months she is likely to start throwing you the deaf ear and showing more interest in sights and smells than she didn't before, dont despair its only her drive kicking in, and as your already doing play through it, her drive will be looking for a focus for her energy, make yourself the focus of it through play bud, best of luck with her
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Spot on, the yelp/scream does work, at first shocks the pup, that is the time to then withdraw. Follow it on with a firm NO, or whatever word you will use for times you want the pup to stop what it is doing. Don't just keep on doing it though unless you withdraw all attention immediately. with the greatest respect Moll i rather not have to keep telling the pup off for doing things it feels compelled by its nature to do, the yelping/screaming at the pup is just like putting a band aid on an infection, what im saying is the problem of the pups energy is still there, thats what needs address
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Spot on, the yelp/scream does work, at first shocks the pup, that is the time to then withdraw. Follow it on with a firm NO, or whatever word you will use for times you want the pup to stop what it is doing. Don't just keep on doing it though unless you withdraw all attention immediately. with the greatest respect Moll i rather not have to keep telling the pup off for doing things it feels compelled by its nature to do, the yelping/screaming at the pup is just like putting a band aid on an infection, what im saying is the problem of the pups energy is still there, thats what needs address
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if the dog is only new to you chances are you hav'nt developed much of an understanding between you ,thing is bud, cases like yours are very difficult to help, its like trying to see into a room by looking in through the key hole, i dont know what you understand of dogs but positive interaction is hugely beneficial to how the dog relates to you, that includes hand feeding so the pup is completely at ease in your space, play is huge for the positive emotional development of the pup, i wouldn,t worry about the retrieve for now, work on creating an understanding based on trust and play,
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A good point made, I would require the dog to stop and return on command. What would be the overall contributing factor to obtain this level of control, choice of breed, trainability etc or would prey drive in some dogs completely negate any training ? The main difference with the drives between gun dogs and running dogs is that the gun dog can still hold the handler in its term of reference while working much the same as a sheep dog will with its Shepard in as much as it can be completely in drive and still take instruction, its drive does not collapse when making connection with prey
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it is a difficult one to put in place the rest of the house need to be on board with it , its based on the fact that if the pup isn't given a chance to feck up in the home he can never be corrected for fecking things up and the relationship stays rock solid and positive as the pup develops, i will never raise a pup any other way because what i need most of all is for the pup to have nothing but positive interactions with me, and to understand , inside rest outside play , it works well,,hope ya find something that works, its a very trying time but it dont last for ever bud
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she sounds like a little demon, what works for me bud after years of making a balls of it , is not getting the pup worked up in the house, the pup is programmed to make contact with what is it primary tool of contact , its mouth, its natural canine behavior, we dont expect young kids not to explore their environment through touch and we make sure they dont put things in their mouth to taste and bite and its just the same with a puppy its difficult i know , but i give pup feck all attention in the home that way it dont associate the house as a play area, i dont confront the pup for an
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i know they're trying times with pups bud but dont fall out with the pup over it, the issue will pass but the relationship has gotta last, best of luck with it,
