Born Hunter
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I’ve not asked for your proof! I don’t care what you think or what evidence you have to back it. I’ve asked for what you consider proof, given you’ve asked me to ‘prove the virus actually exists’. I’m not asking you to do anything other than define your request for proof to save me wasting my time. If you can’t or don’t want to then great, I can forget about discussing such nonsense like “is the virus even real” ffs.
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So you want me to play a silly game where you just rubbish anything I present, LOL. You can't define what constitutes proof... because nothing would to you! Common it's not that hard, even for an old mouse trapper. What do you consider proof? Gene sequencing? Electron microscope imagery? No of course not, but you can't tell me what is. LOL
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So you've never had an injection? Or you would only do it for your own exclusive benefit? You wouldn't take medication that statistically lowered your risk of disease or fatality if it also benefited society... Yes, selfishness is a well known cornerstone of society...
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From a political tactics point of view, probably yes. But I can only speak truthfully and leave politcal concerns to politicians. I consider it my civic duty and so do many others.
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There’s on ongoing theme here where those of you who refuse vaccination also refuse to acknowledge that immunity helps stop transmission to others who might not have responded so well to vaccination. I think children as individuals are less of a concern than older demographics but you can’t ignore that they are a factor in the epidemiology. The ethical argument has two legitimate sides. Again, there’s been very little globally coordinated vaccination effort. In fact it’s been an indictment of global cooperation. It’s been every nation for themselves which is why there is such a disparity
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A third would typically be given placebo out of 20-30k actually. And yes that is good enough, it’s exactly what is done with all other vaccines and drugs that gain certification after trials. You folk keep insisting I’m listening to faucci, LOL. I honestly wouldnt know what he sounds like. The only time I see what he’s saying is when I fact check the claims made that involve him which usually involves reading rather than listening.
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Of course the solution is mass vaccination, you dont end a pandemic by vaccinating half a dozen people... still your claim that it's globally coordinated is unfounded. So three phases of trials involving tens of thousands of test subjects for each vaccine candidate isn't classed as 'testing'? Many are uncertified, none are untested.
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You can't do that! You need to give black and white answers, otherwise you're speaking like a politician. LOL. The truth is statistical and indeffinite and requires effort to understand. Everyone wants to get to the answer without doing the hard yards.
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Good morning
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Are we talking about the same pandemic? There hasn't been a whole lot of collaboration and cooperation in this 'global program'. LOL. It's been every country and company for itself! The fact they all agree that vaccination is the solution is no more suspicious than the fact they all agree that farming land and breathing the air feeds their citizens.
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Yeah because nationalist movements have never used civic duty before! LOL
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Civic duty isn't another term for 'mandatory', it means something that your care of society and honour dictate you should do. Mandatory as well as voluntary 'things' have been called civic duty in the past.
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I agree with all that and yes I have unfairly grouped you with all other opponents to covid vaccination. Ultimately if we as a species manage to eliminate covid then it won't even be a factor on passports.
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I'm sure there is peer pressure but that's unfortunately life. You said that folks weren't getting vaccinated to help society and that's not true. Vaccination generates herd immunity which literally is protection of others than yourself. This is a factor in many people choosing to get vaccinated. For me it's the main reason. I consider it my civic duty. So it used to be that you were going to lose your job or be banned from entering pubs etc without your vaccine and now it's peer pressure.... at what point will you lot just accept that you aren't being pesecuted?
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Sorry I meant Tor onion routing which is part of the dark web and is a very tough type of encryption. Back then it was near bullet proof and was great for criminality. I agree our technology advances much faster than our conscience at times. But it's not humanity I worry for most, it's the Eden were wrecking that worries me most. Bit that's another topic.
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No one should doubt for a second that the head of SIS and DSTL aren't talking with government regarding bioweapons. DSTL do their own classified research on weaponised pathogens and will by their nature be aware of what bioweapons are out there being worked on by potential adversaries. The US navy invented cyber criminals favourite place, the dark web so they could keep in front of cyber crime. They invented what they knew was coming so they could get a head start on how to beat it. It's f****d up, but theres a lot of shit being researched just to stay ahead of the competition.
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Mate, honestly, I only know all these civil servent and policians names because of you lot constantly telling me not to believe them! LOL. I pay them f**k all attention naturally, and I dare say if I did I'd be told to stop listening to them! LOL Gain of function is used legitimately to keep in front of virus mutations and epidemics. It's obviously considered a risky business. Im sure lots of people would prefer it wasnt happening but we cant just pretend its only evil. So I wouldn't be surprised if what you say is true and their research was partly funded by foreign states.
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Ah right, so when you said "We've known for a year now that it's man made" you actually meant, "it's possible it's man made if it's not a hoax, i havent decided yet"...
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Yes. Gene sequencing? Electron microscope imagery? Epidemiological data that supports the presence of a novel infectious pathogen? Have you decided which claim of yours was wrong yet?
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Because sufficient evidence hasn't been presented yet. As far as im concerned the CCP are an enemy of the West, regardless of if they had a biosecurity breach. My point is. Im not ignorant or dismissive of the theory. I shared with the site the most credible voice of it back in November!
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No idea. I haven't looked into her at all hence why I made no comment on the original post on her. I don't know, I wasn't willing to find out, so I have no place arguing against her views or arguing with her views.
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Well real life is complicated. Lol. I'll not water it down to please folk.
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Point of fact, I listened to Bret Weinstein argue for gain of function lab origin and even posted it on here back in November. Im not convinced at this point.
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Woah! Born hasn't made any conclusive claims on its origin. There is a subtle but hugely important difference between "don't know" and "was not". Im inclined to believe natural mutation is most likely but its still up for grabs. The existence of the virus is not. It exists, conclusively.
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And you had the bare faced cheek to tell me I side stepped! Is it only me that has to show the respect of answering questions? You've claimed both, and yet they're mutually exclusive... whos all over the place again? LOL Given the virus does exist, and the origin is still inconclusive, man made is more likely than doesn't exist.
