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Pie only exists in mathematics. It's not a physical thing like mass, gravity, volume, momentum etc. In maths things can be infinite, in the physical world things just tend to infinity.Neither is time but we'd be lost without it.Time is a fairly important part of the physical universe so I'd disagree. The effects of time are obvious. Like the effects of gravity. Changing them has real physical effects. Pi is just a ratio, it's just a number, it's value is purely mathematical. The importance of it in the physical world is that all circles obey the simple law that the ratio of their circumference
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I'm not being coy, lol. Infinity only exists in maths, not in the physical world. In the physical world, physical things only ever tend to infinity, never reach it. Now the value of Pi might well be truly irrational and also have an infinite number of decimal places but that is only existent in mathematics. Decimal places are not physical things, they're purely mathematical and so this occurance of infinity is purely mathematical. In the physical world Pi is the ratio of a circles circumference to its diameter.
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Pi being the ratio of a circles circumference to its diameter. Those are real things. The actual value it takes, based on the number system, is completely arbitrary. It might as well be normalised to one. In fact it could just be left as a fraction, it really makes no difference. The concept of pie is important, it's place in geometric mathematics is important. It's value and the fact it has an infinite number of decimal places is basically irrelevant outside of mathematics.
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Where have I not given it respect? This isn't a subjective opinion, pie is not physical. It's a number, not a physical entity. It's only the number of decimal places that pie has that is infinite and that's only in our decimal number system, a man made number system. Not a physical entity.
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Pie only exists in mathematics. It's not a physical thing like mass, gravity, volume, momentum etc. In maths things can be infinite, in the physical world things just tend to infinity.
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While blowing up a balloon, is it constantly expanding? Yes, of course.Yet it also has a finite volume at any point during that expansion doesn't it. At no point does it have infinite volume, or will it ever do. You know as well as I do that there is a perfectly good mathematical reasoning to say it is. But if not infinite (which I subscribe to as mind f***ing as it is) the what's on the outside? (No it ain't god Francie) Why does there have to be an outside? If space is a closed manifold then the dimensions of space are loops. There's no edge or outside in that model.
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While blowing up a balloon, is it constantly expanding? Yes, of course. Yet it also has a finite volume at any point during that expansion doesn't it. At no point does it have infinite volume, or will it ever do. So what your are actually saying is there is no such thing as infinity? TC In my opinion there is nothing physical that is infinite. It's just a mathematical concept. It's possible space could be but I highly doubt it. That's just my opinion though.
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While blowing up a balloon, is it constantly expanding? Yes, of course. Yet it also has a finite volume at any point during that expansion doesn't it. At no point does it have infinite volume, or will it ever do.
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I'm deeply sceptical of it for the reasons I have stated.
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It's already been proven with the maths and science we have, they used light and simple trigonometry and came to the conclusion that the universe as we know it flat and infinite I believe.. They believe it is flat, not proven. A flat universe doesn't mean it has to be infinite. And a constantly expanding universe doesn't mean it's infinite either. The observable universe is finite in size and expanding. As I said, the curvature of space could be so slight that it lies within the error of measurement, appearing flat. There's no proof, only evidence. There's no proof of the Big Bang yet
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So, never! It's what a Physicist would call 'tending to infinity' or 'asymptotic'.
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It's already been proven with the maths and science we have, they used light and simple trigonometry and came to the conclusion that the universe as we know it flat and infinite I believe.. They believe it is flat, not proven. A flat universe doesn't mean it has to be infinite. And a constantly expanding universe doesn't mean it's infinite either. The observable universe is finite in size and expanding. As I said, the curvature of space could be so slight that it lies within the error of measurement, appearing flat. There's no proof, only evidence.
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Our observable universe is without doubt finite. If it was infinite we couldn't measure it's diameter or volume or quantify any of it. In fact we wouldn't be able to see it all as it would be infinite. In the same way you couldn't fit an infinite number of marbles into your finite pocket. But the observable universe is only part of the entire universe....
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Think you'll find they've discovered it's infinite, I've just watched the documentary on the BBC. If the universe was truly infiinite, not only would there be other planets with life, there would be other planets exactly the same as ours. If it was finite, what would be beyond the "end"? It's a tricky one alright. It's a question we will never know but simple mathematics have solved the question as we know it... I'd be deeply deeply sceptical of anything that point to any real quantity being infinite. And I don't believe that the topology of the universe being flat means
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Might look tropical through a fecking Scotsman's eyes! Does look nice though. West coast of Scotland is beautiful. Nearest thing to proper wilderness we can find on our island.
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Oh f**k, this is gonna stick now ain't it.
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I dont think rich women are necessarily attractive but i do think theres something about these real intelligent well educated sorts i remember when we was young most of my pals would go out on the pull down the Red Lion or the local clubs etc......me and a couple of others being a bit more adventurous we,d head up the West End trying to get into posh Mayfair clubs in our scruffy jeans ....some of the birds were not all that but they just seemed to ooze class and sophistication.....occasionally there would be one who was fed up of posh university boys and just wanted a rough nasty looking peas
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Certainly sounds like an interesting round. It's grabbed my attention anyway. I hope you didn't take my previous comments the wrong way mate. I'm mulling over chopping my hmr for something with a bit more poke. Hence my comment. I find it such a useful gun though. LOL
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Bible Questions For Francie And Anyone Else With An Opinion
Born Hunter replied to yorkshire's topic in General Talk
and if there are infinite universes then at least one of them would have a god maybe it really is this one? Now that's out of the box thinking mate Here's how to take it even deeper if that is the case and if it is then there must be at least one with "a god" then that just proves that god is a product of the universe not the other way around my feckin head hurts now. brilliant! Or maybe the universe is god. ?...I need to stop watching discovery channel lol I'm not getting involved in this thread really, not my thing, despite some shocking use of science, lol. But in light of the a -
Right, I get ya. The observatory hasn't been traveling anywhere as such, it's just been in orbit around the Sun. It's not really any closer to Kepler than we are here. The reason for sending it 'up there' wasn't to get closer to anything of interest, it was because space observatories have big advantages over Earth based observatories for a number of reasons. It can do it's job much better up there than it could down here. So since it's mission began, it's been looking at a small part of the milky way that is of interest and logging planets that it discovers. Thousands to date I believe wi
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Right, I get ya. The observatory hasn't been traveling anywhere as such, it's just been in orbit around the Sun. It's not really any closer to Kepler than we are here. The reason for sending it 'up there' wasn't to get closer to anything of interest, it was because space observatories have big advantages over Earth based observatories for a number of reasons. It can do it's job much better up there than it could down here. So since it's mission began, it's been looking at a small part of the milky way that is of interest and logging planets that it discovers. Thousands to date I believe wi
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Russia throws out it's fair share of stunners, but then I think they tend to present themselves to quite a high standard compared to other nations. It's just part of their culture. English, but maybe I'm biased. Rosie Huntington-Whitely is a real English Rose. Scandinavians always rank highly. And to throw a bit of mixed race in, the Brazillians (often Latinas in general) are stunning.
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Right, I get ya. The observatory hasn't been traveling anywhere as such, it's just been in orbit around the Sun. It's not really any closer to Kepler than we are here. The reason for sending it 'up there' wasn't to get closer to anything of interest, it was because space observatories have big advantages over Earth based observatories for a number of reasons. It can do it's job much better up there than it could down here. So since it's mission began, it's been looking at a small part of the milky way that is of interest and logging planets that it discovers. Thousands to date I believe wi
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It's called probability theory. How long is it since you've studied mathematics? LOL Fifteen years mate, but I still know there's a difference between chance an probability, is there not, an math don't do chance, probability yes, chance no. Yes, probability is chance quantified. Probability theory is the mathematical measurement of chance. So, mathematics does do chance, it calculates it as a probability. Without probability, chance alone means very little.
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It's called probability theory. How long is it since you've studied mathematics? LOL
