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Tyson wasnt just knocked out by Holyfield and Lewis he was systematically beaten up.....Lewis was 1 punch sparked im sure you can appreciate the difference. What difference does the 16 years make Lewis was still the older man its not his fault that Tyson was being hand walked to the title of youngest champion in history. Bowe/Lewis id say around the time Bowe trashed his belt rather than fight him would of been his best chance but a later Lewis ( the dreadlocked version ) i dont think Bowe would of heard the final bell....whats your thoughts ?
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For the simple reason that Tyson was made for fighters with a good jab....look at how certain fighters struggle with certain styles Tyson looked bad against mediocre fighters who could jab what would he of been like against an all time great jab ?.....The late 70,s early ,s Holmes that beat Shavers and Norton had great skills and the heart to go with it Tyson didnt have the heart Holmes had to get off the floor and come back.Tyson sat on his stool pleading with his trainer not to go out for the 8th round against Lewis thats fighting heart you either have or you dont regardless how washed up yo
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Couldnt agree more what a bunch of flash fuckers on here..........when we was 14 and 15 we had absolutely f**k all thank god for the school uniform where every f****r looked equally poor.....even on the weekend !!!
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You seem very high on Holmes Brookie ive heard a few very knowledgeable boxing folk over the years say the same....the old trainer Denny Mancini used to say he would of given anything to of worked with Holmes.....Mickey Duff always said he would of beat a prime Ali......im not sure id go that far but i do agree he was very underated and without doubt had the best jab of any heavyweight through history.
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Who ? apart from Biggs i cant remember any 6 ft 5 plus fighters that Tyson didnt struggle with.
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Mick you didnt really need to write a list of opponents it was the worst era in heavyweight history we know that.....Tyson came along at the perfect time when the Witherspoon/Tubbs/Tate/Page era of overweight journeymen in any other era were around ....making Tyson a breath of fresh air.......yes he could only fight who was available same as any fighter can but Muhammed Ali wasnt the best heavyweight in history because of what he did against Brian London or Henry Cooper he was the best because of what he did against the greatest fighters of his era..................your list above doesnt conta
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Then he shouldnt of been in a boxing ring,when exactly was Tysons prime ? and what world class fighters did he beat in this prime ?.......Fighters throughout history have always been judged on the big fights they had and the best opponents they fought...................only Tyson is judged on the worst opponents he fought !! I dont think ive ever heard a top athlete given as many excuses as Tyson i put it down to the appeal of his story...........street kid/hard puncher/sweet old man who died/leech of a wife/fast lane life.......its a cracking story i admit.....but it doesnt make him any b
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It seems the only one who thinks that type of behaviour is acceptable is a fellow scouser? Says a lot really. TC I dont know whos funnier Stan or Tiercel.........only difference being im not sure Tiercel was trying to be
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That fight the other day was the first really good look ive had at him mate i reckon he could take the power up with him easy enough but im not sure he would have the strength of say Froch ( thats a messy fight when you picture it )........but you,d imagine its a move he,ll have to make for the big money fights ...whats your take on it ? I wouldnt say Tyson had a great chin and it wasnt poor either.....lets face it he didnt have to take a punch for the first 40 odd fights of his career you say his defence set him apart but Douglas was pretty much the first person to hit him and he never
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Well you know what to do in future now dont you........you say " I,ll go and get my gym bag and we,ll wrap hands " Just dont be surprised when they piss themself laughing at you
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Lewis got sparked a few times yes thats heavyweight boxing for you......Tyson didnt get sparked he either quit cold or just stopped trying when he knew he couldnt win.......ones acceptable ones not.....personally i dont think the fight would of been a different outcome maybe just a few rounds longer,i think Lewis was poor in the Tyson fight and could of had him out in 3 or 4 rounds if he had forced the issue more.
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I agree with that Taggy its hard to fight a fighter whos not fighting you......but in Tysons prime guys like Ribalta or even Tucker they were in them fights can you imagine the problems he would of had with a prime Lennox jab he would of jumped on his back or done something ridiculous.......Tyson looked great against no movement but against movement and a jab he didnt have the skills or ability to box his way in or the heart to guts it out.
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I,ll never understand folks reasoning for thinking Tyson was some kind of superman......i think Lewis was too cautious in his fight with Tyson and showed him far too much respect he knew Tyson had nothing to trouble him and could be dealt with easily hence why Manny Steward kept on his case in the corner screaming at him to get Tyson out of there.......Tyson was never able to deal with really tall fighters look how he struggled with average fighters like Mitch Green and Ribalta in his prime.....he was also never able to deal with the jab look at the mess Lewis jab had him in even the Tokyo Dou
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I forget who it was now the black player who had a banana thrown at him and bent down started peeling it and took a bite.....fans applauded the spirit of the man and rightly so there was a time when human beings of any colour would stand up for themself and be respected for doing so.......nowadays they fall away and go crying to their respective community action group.......and then wonder why peoples attitudes to them dont change !
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No i agree a fish can never have too much water......i meant in terms of seeing them,after all said and done we keep fish in glass tanks to watch them
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What a f****n idiot !....does he think thats some kind of achievement bullying the tv license man,you can tell the folk who are not used to real confrontation,getting all excited over someone going about their job .....prat !
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Lewis was still a domestic level fighter in 91 and hadnt been anywhere near a world title of course they would say f**k that.......in my opinion a prime Lewis would of beat a prime Tyson 9 out of every 10 times they met.
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705 litres to be exact.....the Aqua 1250 canister filter is only good for about 250 litres,i dont know much about Goldfish but id imagine they,re reasonably hardy......tank seems a bit excessive for a few Goldfish .....and whats with the cups and saucers didnt you have enough gravel
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I often wonder what the early black players in our game must think sitting listening to all this nonsense about racism..........players like our Clyde Best or George Parris used to take unbelievable abuse down West Ham.............and that was just from us !!!......Can you imagine how feeble our country must look to some of these old South Africans who have experienced true racism........embarrassing !
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Isnt that the dosey northerner who lives in stockbroker belt Surrey .......why does he look like he,s straining to have a shit
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Says some wedo spic import
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You clearly dont understand the humour behind it mate.......as regards Sunderland,not another delicate soul ok ok im deeply sorry for offending you i think us Londoners better just stay indoors for a while it seems like we,re upsetting everyone lately !
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If thats a pro boxer im a rocket scientist !
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Use your noddle i very much doubt if one word of the entire thread is first hand knowledge do you mr critical analyst !
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Maybe thats because " cringeworthy " seems to be your phrase of the moment ..........it was a few blokes having a laugh on the train for f**k sake it dont need analyzing ! What a complete load of ol bollocks all this filming football fans on trains......just seen on the 6 o clock news they are pulling their hair out now about a bunch of West Ham kids singing yid songs on the train........should people all just travel in silence to and from football being how people are so sensitive !
