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In my opinion and only from what i've heard over the years, they should really have been called Breay Terriers. Mr. Cyril Breay was the cornerstone of breeding this type of terrier in the Lakes. He was a very intelligent man, as his profession was a school teacher, he was very well respected in his area. He had a good knowledge of genetics and when I used to visit the Lakes in the 70's this type of terrier was always in the cross-bred section of a show. Apparentley Mr. Breay used a very old line of a small type of Staffordshire Bull - mainly black, a bit of Border and a bit of Fell. After sp
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How far are you going back sid Wilkinson Anthony Barker that blood line are all diluted now or gone
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I like him alot mate good stamp i hope he works will Ive had Garys line for along time
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BQ is Frank still about
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I put this thread up, so that the working Border Terrier men, could share the blood lines of their Borders, not as you think, to earn money from it. I have been contacted by some very sound lads up and down the country, who work their Borders to GROUND, they don't like to put up pics or threads on this site for this reason, only to be attacked verbally, as being in the game to make money. Also I would like to add, that Fezz has admitted that his Border has not made the grade, but if he uses good blood lines he will only strengthen the working line in his Borders to come. Hepher, you are new to
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I now that Levi offered David Harcombe to working borders when he was struggling with his line but unfortunately he declined and went to Patterdale's.I think the dogs that Dave was offered was out Rays/Levis simmys line 100% digging dogs.
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rocknook sandman daydream , use this dog last year to put over my border , hes levi oaks line bread , and a good grafter ,lives not to far from me, iam sure rock hard of stone is levi oaks line breed Was the bitch you put it to from Levi's stuff, and did she work below ground? Did you also see Gordon's "Dillon" work, the dog you used on your bitch? my bitch is not from levis stuff but she has rock hard as stone in her ped , went up to angilsey for her , the chap runs a few hounds and the borders run with them . my bitch is from good working stuff but never made it , the pups tho
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BEEN READIN HIS TOPICS BEEN TAKIN THE DOG OUT ALL SEASON AN GOT NOTHING MUST BE A GOOD UN LOL FlatCap the lad has had a couple of fox this last season with his terrier he is trying give him some encouragement i'v been in it 35 years so you don't need to give me none.Sometimes it is best to listen rather than talk remember you always give an young terrier a chance nice terrier OldNog and you get more experience next season.
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all mine are levi oakes breeding and have most of them in there pedigrees Which ones have you got in your pedigrees, and could you tell me what sort of workers they are i.e. below ground? Do you breed your Borders and what sort of success rate have you had?
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rocknook sandman daydream , use this dog last year to put over my border , hes levi oaks line bread , and a good grafter ,lives not to far from me, iam sure rock hard of stone is levi oaks line breed Was the bitch you put it to from Levi's stuff, and did she work below ground? Did you also see Gordon's "Dillon" work, the dog you used on your bitch?
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rocknook sandman daydream , use this dog last year to put over my border , hes levi oaks line bread , and a good grafter ,lives not to far from me, iam sure rock hard of stone is levi oaks line breed Thank for replying all names above are from Levi oaks pedigrees, so you used Gordons Dillon, how is your bitch bred? and is she a worker?
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Thanks for replying mate is she working and did you get her from Gorden
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Any of you lads out there who breed borders do you have any of these names in you pedigrees KC Titchfeild Terror Lucky Sargent Keen to go Master Danny Daytime little lady Maid of the Mill Red Stag Made of Steel Rocknook Sandman Daydream Rock Hard of Stock Pyrennial Mano'war Lils Golden Dream If you have any of these names in your pedigrees could you let me now how your dogs our working and how much success have you had with your borders in breeding and working them only interested in the working side.
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I lost a good bitch a few weeks ago sorry for your loss mate
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I remember Monty Bingo and mick John a true Gent
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Spot on i agree 100%
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Called out on Saturday by Head-keeper, had trouble with foxes - could I help? Because it was new permission ground, I accepted right away, so at 9am Saturday morning I met a very young under-keeper, who showed me where the earths were. He had never done any terrier work before and seemed very interested. First earth we came to, my 2 Lakies were pulling hard on the lead -- a 2 holer, on the side of the bank, but lots of trees around. Put locater on my bitch - Lucy (7year old) and let her go, she found within minutes, worked the same as usual, lots of bumping, at 1.1 depth. Told the keeper it
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Fordi - Firstly, the issues that you have got with Showman have got nothing to do with me or anybody else. But, I think your missing the point - if K94V has sold you those 2 pups in the pics and sold them as Border Terriers, then he has misled you. Because in my opinion Border Terriers breed true to type i.e if you ask for a pint of lager in your local and get a pint of cider - you wouldn't be happy. I believe that the black pup has got Patt in him somewhere. I have never in all of my experience (38 years) seen a black Border Terrier with papers. Its all well and good if your happy with the
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I agree with what you say, did the lad have any papers with the dogs? There would be no throw backs in the Border breed if they were pedigree's - there must be Patt in there somewhere. I can't understand this site, people always kicking about the price of Border pups! I would like to know the price he paid for his pups, it would be a shame if the lad was seen off. And later will he breed the dog and sell the pups as Border Terriers?
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you do not you do not what they are born black but after a few weeks red grizzle or blue and tan
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nice to see Borders being work below ground
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you do not
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Yes, to my knowledge they were working earth dogs. Have you got a Border from this breeding, and how old is it, and is it working?
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Just looking through my pedigrees, and it looks like pyrennial border terrier lines, originated from Oxcroft blood lines. Levi must have used it a fair bit 5 generations back, according to my pedigrees, and also foxwyn terrier lines he used about the same time. I'm saying Levi but, it could have been Gordon or Ray who put these blood lines in as well. Hope the information helps, let me know if you need more information.
