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I don't want to enter into an argument over terriers. Its been years since I've had one, BUT I just wanted to make the point that there is more than one way to skin a cat[ no cats where harmed,,,,lol] The point I wanted to make is that a good bolting terrier is NOT a failed digging dog. As I said before, I used to think digging dogs/ killing dogs where the bees knees, but with experience I learned another way......... All the best.
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I understand where you're coming from, BUT a good bolting dog is NOT just a second rate digging dog.I feel like I'm going round in circles so I think i'm going to disappear again All the best What is it then, a clever digging dog? Would you know what that is????? I know what my idea of a clever digging dog/terrier is, and giving fox space to bolt ain't in my idea. Is that your way of thinking? Just asking mate, like I said iv kenneled bolting dogs and have no axe to grind with them or folk who keep them Sometimes a terrier will understand that a bolt is what the hunter requires and
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Depends on the terrier mate. All the best.
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I understand where you're coming from, BUT a good bolting dog is NOT just a second rate digging dog.I feel like I'm going round in circles so I think i'm going to disappear again All the best What is it then, a clever digging dog? Would you know what that is?????
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I understand where you're coming from, BUT a good bolting dog is NOT just a second rate digging dog. I feel like I'm going round in circles so I think i'm going to disappear again All the best
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How old is she now mate? The years seem to march on eh? One day you may get a good 'un.....LOL
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I don't mean to disrespect you mate, but a GOOD bolting terrier doesn't just sit back and bay from 2 foot away. A GOOD bolting terrier makes the fox bolt[if it can]. Not all foxes will bolt, but most will if given the opportunity/incentive. JMO. Cheers
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Foxdropper I admire your passion for the working terrier. At one time I was the same. Some folk go about terrier work in a half-hearted way, but its passion that makes a line/strain/breed into something special. All the best mate
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I respect your view mate, but a bolting terrier, sorry good bolting terrier will get the job most times apart from pregnant vixens or places that are too tight. I think the problem is [in my opinion] is people think a soft not committed terrier is a "bolting" dog, but in my view, a good bolting terrier is determined committed worker that gets the job done. Just my opinion mate. All the best.
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Hi mate Not necessarily true. A good,experienced tyke [ and terrierman] can often get a result they desire.
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Hi Marshman, After doing it for 25 years I felt I had accomplished all that I wanted. Plus I had a cracking wee bitch that I didn't think I would better. Once she got too old, any other dog would have been an anticlimax.
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I have noticed on this forum that the most vociferous terriermen prefer digging dogs over bolting terriers. As someone who hunted fox with terriers for over 25 years, I had a soft spot for a good bolting dog. I had some dogs that would stay whatever time it took to dig, but as much as I admired them, I saw the value of a dog that could bolt a fox. I should clarify I don't have a terrier now, and its just a personal opinion. I understand that if you have a preference, that's fine but I do think that with experience you can see the benefit of both types of working terrier. Cheers
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good post david , i also done many many years foxing , never less than 100+ a year , one of my best grafters was a little russel bitch she would stand off & bay but mixed it when needed that bitch bolted more foxes than any of my fell types ,never got stuck & i could call her out or stay untull dug she would be laughed at on here but she more than earned her keep god bless the little girl Thanks mate. I myself never did more than about 50 in a year. After reading some comments, it seems bolting dogs are not thought of as highly as stayers which I find strange. But it takes al
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I find these posts quite amusing. Its been about 13 or 14 years since I stopped earthwork with terriers. I was at it for over 25 years and I find there is some amount of P$sh written about terriers. IMO. Some of the most successful terriermen , ie catch around 100 foxes per season use bolting terriers and only dig as a last resort. Their dogs rarely get badly marked up and they are capable of getting called out an earth. These guys have been doing this for maybe half a century, but if they came on here they probably would get slagged off by all the keyboard warriors on here. Not everyo
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Thanks pal. Watched the first DVD many years ago, but not seen the second one. I may order a copy. Cheers
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Well done mate. Andy breeds some nice goshawks. Have you tried her at crows/rooks yet. Some excellent flights at these especially with a smaller female.
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Hi Huntmad My old redtail took a couple of pheasant and ducks plus a few moorhens. Feather is not really their strongpoint but they can do it. My red would soar above me at times and I often wondered if I could put up pheasant when she was above me then I would get a beautiful stoop. She would do it to rabbits but I never got the opportunity with pheasant or duck.
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Hi Huntmad, I totally agree with you regarding manning them when they are too heavy. A lot depends on the nature of the bird, but this can increase resentment of the falconer if the bird is enforced to endure hours of manning if its not ready. I also like to set up "easy" kills with a lure or carcase etc, with the bird when its ready. As long as you don't rob it of its catch it helps get rid of any frustration on the hawks part and lets it find out what its meant to do. If you are going for hare, I would use a large fur lure or better still hare carcase to allow it to gain confidence.
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I use the cheapest knife I can get with about a 3 inch blade. I don't get expensive ones anymore as I tend to lose them too easily. At least if it only cost a fiver it doesn't make me cry!!!! Well not as much
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Mate, you could always man the hawk to the dog. It isn't rocket science. It just takes a bit of time and patience. One of the biggest things to help make a hawk tolerate a dog is rewards. reward with food when around the the dog. Getting the dog to flush game usually gets a hawk to tolerate a dog. Just make sure the dog is well trained and obedient and doesn't run in on a kill.
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I used to do a lot of rockpiles when I lived near Bradford. If you didn't hunt rockpiles you didn't do a lot of terrier work as most foxes seemed to lie up in them. Most terriers good in rocks would be fairly hard. You didn't want a dog just to stand off its fox and bay waiting to get dug. I had a dog stuck a couple of times, but with a lot of help from mates, I got them back out. At that time the Fell and Moorland Terrier Club was a godsend.
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I understand your concern mate. Some vets arn't worth a toss, thats why I said go to a good vet that specialises in birds. Not many about, but a good one is well worth a visit, especially for the sake of the hawk.
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I would suggest take it to a decent avian vet to diagnose the problem.
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You could always make your own out of light plywood. I have my own homemade box and also a falcon fabrications box. I found the Falcon fabrications box doesn't clean up as well as the wooden one. Also I find the perch not far enough from the floor which means the gos tail feathers touch the floor and can get dirty if she messes when travelling. David
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For Stud Bronson Collie Whippet First Cross
david901 replied to bigjase1's topic in Working Dogs & Livestock
He asked have you had any big bags ...... Depends where in the country he is. 20 rabbits in some places is harder going than 50 in others. So very true mate.
