yeah,pissed this particular farmer off ,and he did what my farmer friends did,,called someone to shoot them,,and ive no animosity or grudge against anyone but what a feckin sickner for me ,as i thought id be busy over the summer ,thinning them out at my own discretion.if the goats stay where they are ,,ive no right to go near them and will leave it up to the men requested to do so by the landowner...so i got to find a new hobby it seems lol