I get were your coming from foxdropper but how many times have you seen folk take shots at birds well out of range and (goose shooters are the worst ) they have pricked them I bet there's big numbers every season just because they saw someone on YouTube do it as a example I shoot a place were next door 2 lads shoot they don't even own a dog between them yet shoot over some fields and gullies full of water im forever picking there birds up dead or injured I shot a fox in October that could hardly move looked like it had been shot in the back end I bet it was them and I could give a lot more exa