A friend of mine had a grandson of that Sam dog, his dam was Penny sire was Tipp Tim. Very good dog he was indeed. We've still stuff out of him.. I put there with the same bitch and her brother he was a rough coated dog me mate dug alot stuff with both of them. They were the only ones stayed at it for a good number of years while some the other stuff we bred and bought in jacked or just wouldn't do it ha.