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[Glyn..... 5,236]

24 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

Nice few pics there Glyn .Decent stamp of dog too sadly not seen too  much these days . 

there are plenty if you know , me and my mates been breeding working this nuttall shit for nearly 40 years , maybe well be in fashion again soon lol 

 

Edited July 28, 2018 by Glyn.....

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19 hours ago, chesney said:

I honestly don't believe for one minute that anyone got anything direct was ever told they be given a 3 gen pedigree that's something that's come from your side of the water. The jealousy and bitterness is coming from sources for different reasons everyone seems ta have there own agenda with the black dogs but if you honestly believe that the bitterness and bs that goes with them only started with this line of dog  your well mistaken it was there when booth Gould and Nuttall were flavour of the month. That line  was always about it's only in the last 7 to 8 year it hit the production lines end of through others who sourced it from the original breeder there the ones people should take aim at there the ones selling lads the dream there the ones  mentioning Peds and all the other bs there the ones made it national this side there ones went global by selling it to your side. Then a couple got clever your side and got it direct out of the yard itself and your problem now is someone told you they had 3 gen pedigree well what he was told was how to continue itfor 3 Generations a big difference. As for the pitbull scene they ran that into the ground themselves.

I never said the man himself told me this. And personally don't care about the peds. And i do agree with the pitbull going to shit. But that's because of the young guy's who sell drugs are in it and are in it not for the right reasons. And the young  breed to what they think they should and not how they should.

[Apache... 2,588]

A few nice pics Glyn with a bit of history with it, (sure I've seen them before) they haven't changed much in nearly 40 yrs.

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

54 minutes ago, Glyn..... said:

first photo Punch and Brock 2 , not sure if it was Walts Punch 2 or Nuttalls , both line bred on Breays Kipper/Rusty  , 2nd photo KP  Flint  and the 3rd Brians Penny and Punch 1 

Thanks Glyn. 

[Glyn..... 5,236]

These are my mates terriers Dog and bitch  line bred from our Nuttall stock 

 

Edited July 30, 2018 by Glyn.....

[Lozzer 237]

5 minutes ago, Glyn..... said:

These are my mates terriers Dog and bitch  line bred from our Nuttall stock 

Very nice Glyn,  no disrespect everyone to the own but some nuttals terriers seemed to lost alot of the size and qualities favoured I personally liked to his own modern day style of dog in which the lost of that . People have the preference but even see or hear lot laugh at the size of dogs. Still though, the man produced workers to the day and the took the results 

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1 minute ago, Lozzer said:

Very nice Glyn,  no disrespect everyone to the own but some nuttals terriers seemed to lost alot of the size and qualities favoured I personally liked to his own modern day style of dog in which the lost of that . People have the preference but even see or hear lot laugh at the size of dogs. Still though, the man produced workers to the day and the took the results 

These and the other i posted photo's of go back to terrier that on the whole left Brian's yard in the 70's others including myself( from the 80's)  bred for what we needed, when i've been to Brians which i have to be honest the last time i was there was about 15 years ago , there was a mix of types  a couple of bitches i'd of taken home lovely strong types , lot of the others where bug eyed weaklings but still doing the job 

[Lozzer 237]

21 minutes ago, Glyn..... said:

These and the other i posted photo's of go back to terrier that on the whole left Brian's yard in the 70's others including myself( from the 80's)  bred for what we needed, when i've been to Brians which i have to be honest the last time i was there was about 15 years ago , there was a mix of types  a couple of bitches i'd of taken home lovely strong types , lot of the others where bug eyed weaklings but still doing the job 

Yes I saw that myself there at around that time and dogs and saw some good bitches which as you said and the was his own , some with bronze in them , good enough size. On the other side I did see others which wasn't to what I admire to the other dogs. Going back to the 80s or before, do you ever see of dog called,Spate, owned by aw. This would been around before I had blacks. It had a good name and the man too. Brian sometimes won't say about some dogs that come off him and then times he will .

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19 minutes ago, Lozzer said:

Yes I saw that myself there at around that time and dogs and saw some good bitches which as you said and the was his own , some with bronze in them , good enough size. On the other side I did see others which wasn't to what I admire to the other dogs. Going back to the 80s or before, do you ever see of dog called,Spate, owned by aw. This would been around before I had blacks. It had a good name and the man too. Brian sometimes won't say about some dogs that come off him and then times he will .

No i never saw a dog called Spate , i can't really comment on Brian's terriers , the last time i worked one bred by him was 20 years ago, we had a disagreement over which bitch he wanted to bring to a dog i once owned and we never really got on terms again , that said he is a top man and a expert terrier breeder 

Edited July 29, 2018 by Glyn.....

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1 hour ago, Glyn..... said:

These are my mates terriers Dog and bitch  line bred from our Nuttall stock 

No resemblance to the original stock Glyn, I'm not knocking them at all but they're world's apart stamp wise. It's hard enough keeping the work and drive in them without loosing sleep over the look of them, dambed if you do, dambed if you don't.

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4 minutes ago, dillydog said:

No resemblance to the original stock Glyn, I'm not knocking them at all but they're world's apart stamp wise. It's hard enough keeping the work and drive in them without loosing sleep over the look of them, dambed if you do, dambed if you don't.

i agree these where a lot bigger  the bronze bitch in the flesh wasn't tall but she weighed a ton 

[jiggy 3,209]

6 minutes ago, Glyn..... said:

i agree these where a lot bigger  the bronze bitch in the flesh wasn't tall but she weighed a ton 

Did Brian deliberately bring down size for hunt service or was it just an accidental product of close breeding 

[Lozzer 237]

23 minutes ago, Glyn..... said:

No i never saw a dog called Spate , i can't really comment on Brian's terriers , the last time i worked one bred by him was 20 years ago, we had a disagreement over which bitch he wanted to bring to a dog i once owned and we never really got on terms again , that said he is a top man and a expert terrier breeder 

In the last 15 years I've had two bitches off him . First one small smooth coated which he lent me .people laugh bit at size but wasn't long till on morning out we dug to a fox to her handy and dog was great. Later on the day the other terriers with didn't work to ground so this bitch went in , done long enough time about 4 or five hours but dead next to the fox which alive .dog wasn't that bad bit up and enough room .people was in there opinion dog too small.was small but could been heart attack as Brian stated few others at around one time of dogs it happened too. A couple of years later I bought another bitch , ruff coated about 13 inch said to big him. This was different type dog fairly qeuit but started to work , when taking out alone just with lurcher . Sadly that dog was taken in another circumstances 

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15 minutes ago, jiggy said:

Did Brian deliberately bring down size for hunt service or was it just an accidental product of close breeding 

I should think it was deliberate, he knew how to breed terriers , 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,104]

So maybe there isn’t an great deal about of the original stuff Glyn lol . Terriers on the limit for earthwork and solid bodied . The debate will rage on but Nuttals originals are few and far between I’ll wager . Some first class animals in this thread mind .