line breeding?

[foxdropper 17,092]

Some old wives tales too . Good thread to resurrect though mate .

[Rebel 831]

24 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

Some old wives tales too . Good thread to resurrect though mate .

There was a good thread on line breeding that you made a good contribution to foxdropper.

Can't seem to find it

[Mixedgrill 703]

9 minutes ago, Rebel said:

There was a good thread on line breeding that you made a good contribution to foxdropper.

Can't seem to find it

I was taken down because of an argument I think 

[foxdropper 17,092]

In my experience  and a fact overlooked I think ,the dog used has a much longer bearing on whats produced afterwards  down the line than a bitch  .Bitches traits seem to be absorbed far quicker in the short term .Might be I favour a rough type of dog but just an observation .

[Mixedgrill 703]

5 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

In my experience  and a fact overlooked I think ,the dog used has a much longer bearing on whats produced afterwards  down the line than a bitch  .Bitches traits seem to be absorbed far quicker in the short term .Might be I favour a rough type of dog but just an observation .

Correct 

[Kaiser Sozé 282]

2 hours ago, foxdropper said:

In my experience  and a fact overlooked I think ,the dog used has a much longer bearing on whats produced afterwards  down the line than a bitch  .Bitches traits seem to be absorbed far quicker in the short term .Might be I favour a rough type of dog but just an observation .

According to the science behind it, both dog and bitch contribute equally and its then down to dominant and recessive genes. That said, the general belief round us was the dog needs to be rough and ready and able to kill his fox but the bitch was more important. As to which has a longer bearing is an interesting one....?

[Rebel 831]

9 hours ago, Mixedgrill said:

I was taken down because of an argument I think 

Haha, I think you might be right. It was a very good thread, with some  experienced lads giving a good insight into how they bred and maintained their family of terriers.

And if my memory serves me right and my understanding was correct, I think foxdropper favoured the use of one stud dog over a number of bitches and then half brother to half sister, to keep and maintain the line. I thought this was very useful info and a good way to go

[foxdropper 17,092]

Was a shame I asked for it to be deleted but just went downhill from memory .

[shaneg 2,577]

It was one of the few treads I liked on here 

[morton 5,367]

On 20/10/2008 at 22:32, bucknut said:

INTERBREEDING - THERE IVE SAID IT - THE STARTER OF CONVERSATION!

 

ON THE PEDIGREE OF MY TERRIER BITCH'S SIDE IT SHOWS ON EARLY IN THE PEDIGREE THAT A FATHER COVERED HIS DAUGHTER THEN AGAIN COVERED HIS GRAND DAUGHTER. GOOD STAMP DOG THO WITH NO FAULTS OTHER THAN IT KILLS OR ATTEMPTS TO KILL ANYTHING.

 

THE QUESTIONA ARE THESE;

 

1) IS SHE A HIENZ 57 MONG?

2) SHE HAS HAD A SON WHO IS A CRACKING STAMP CAN HE COVER HER OR WILL THAT f**k THE LINE UP?

 

ANY THOUGHTS IF YOU HAVE OR KNOW ANYONE WHO HAS DONE IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

 

CHEERS BUCK.

All my terriers are heavily line bred,ive mutts here that are sisters,aunties and nieces,fathers uncles and nephews within a few generations.The odd outcross is used as long as its well bred back into the line and apart from the infrequent slipped jaw ive never had a problem.

[Dead Eyes 680]

Foxdroppers thread was brilliant. There's always going to be a difference in opinions when it comes to breeding. 

 

Chicken breeding has some brilliant ideas that can be, have been, and will be used in dog breeding 

[Mixedgrill 703]

5 minutes ago, Dead Eyes said:

Foxdroppers thread was brilliant. There's always going to be a difference in opinions when it comes to breeding. 

 

Chicken breeding has some brilliant ideas that can be, have been, and will be used in dog breeding 

 what you think I'm breeding dogs for KFC 

[Dead Eyes 680]

They're short of everything at my local one so I wouldn't put it past them 

 

obviously I'm talking about game cocks 

[Lozzer 237]

Can anyone think for themselves and how to work and breed good dogs ? . Love to hear about it instead of  all the bull 

[dillydog 8,414]

If breeding terriers or any working animal was as easy as some profess wouldn't we all have a yard of workers ?

I've only had one lifetime,  I'm no expert but I can tell you what I've come to know is fact..........

No ones got the answer !  We're all just guessing and we're all still learning.  Granted some are having more LUCK than others.  From what I've seen I'd say the breeding IE the dogs natural ability is the key too consistent workers but socialising and giving them time to learn on the job without being pushed is the difference between average and good.

And for my two pennies worth I'm a follower of a bitch line, I'd never use a sub standard dog but surely no one should be using one either. To say one brings more to the table than the other is nonsense,  but 100% of a  bitches mitochondrial DNA is passed to her pups, where as none of the mitochondrial DNA from a dog is passed.......dose that make me sound like I know what I'm talking about  ? 

All I genuinely know is this, be honest with yourself about what you have,  if your bitches are right, your dogs will follow 

Edited December 26, 2020 by dillydog