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Just now, waltjnr said:

I get were your icoming from ,MC Hulls dogs , different league, nutrition, fitness,ect , people are thick, wanna be gangster with a shote bred staffie ,dog breeds being ruined 

100%walt totally agree I remember early 90s I had a Greyhound bitch that was a good bitch on fox hated them with a passion and I took her out regular lamping and digging she took enough I considered breeding of her all the serious lads with pits knocked me back they weren't interested in any way the dogs as you rightly describe I had my choice of many but I didn't bother in the end 

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Back about 04 I was at a dog show.I had gotten there early.The person who was supposed to pick Tom up from airport didn't show.I was asked to hop in another man's truck and pick Tom up.While driving t

Stand back JRR Tolkien, Dai Dogs has arrived, the man who makes War & Peace seem like reading a leaflet ! magical mate ! lol 

Mc them pitbull lads were years ahead of there time regarding conditioning and diets etc and getting dogs match ready took some time getting there 

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9 minutes ago, Blackmag said:

100%walt totally agree I remember early 90s I had a Greyhound bitch that was a good bitch on fox hated them with a passion and I took her out regular lamping and digging she took enough I considered breeding of her all the serious lads with pits knocked me back they weren't interested in any way the dogs as you rightly describe I had my choice of many but I didn't bother in the end 

Nice reply,!

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7 hours ago, mC HULL said:

You've got a yard for.100.dogs and can't turn out champions your hopeless mate there not British dogs but British blood aren't they 

He didn't work eli and he isn't carver? From the bits I see he has all sorts a different blood types he hasnt a line or type like carver  ? 

The definition of a peddler is someone with 20 different  lines of  the same dogs just throwing puppy's out 

Banging out a load a puppy's and matching dogs doesn't make you a great dogman for me but he may be like ive said I dont really know much about him but I dont think k patterdale are in apbt unless hes lined one with a pat 

To say he hasn't got his own family of dogs is just stupid. You really dont know much about the bulldog world and shouldn't be passing comments on it.

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On 07/03/2026 at 11:51, mC HULL said:

You've got a yard for.100.dogs and can't turn out champions your hopeless mate there not British dogs but British blood aren't they 

He didn't work eli and he isn't carver? From the bits I see he has all sorts a different blood types he hasnt a line or type like carver  ? 

The definition of a peddler is someone with 20 different  lines of  the same dogs just throwing puppy's out 

Banging out a load a puppy's and matching dogs doesn't make you a great dogman for me but he may be like ive said I dont really know much about him but I dont think k patterdale are in apbt unless hes lined one with a pat 

''I dont really know much about him''

18 hours ago, mC HULL said:

I know has he his own line ? 

Enough said.

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Back about 04 I was at a dog show.I had gotten there early.The person who was supposed to pick Tom up from airport didn't show.I was asked to hop in another man's truck and pick Tom up.While driving this man's truck I got a chew of tobacco as I always do.Not thinking it wasn't my truck and I didn't have a spit bottle.I quickly found a McDonald's cup and started spitting in it.Picked up Tom.We had a good day.Treadmill races. Hang time competition.I was driving home that night when my cell phone rang.The man who owned the truck had drank from the cup while driving Tom back to the airport.When he realized he was drinking my baccy spit he puked all in the truck lol.If I seen Tom after that he would always ask if I still spit in cups lol.

Last time I was on his yard was 2010. 2 people full time picking up shit and taking care of dogs.He offered me a pup.I believe from rusty to cherry but could be wrong.I had too many terriers and didn't take the pup.The place is immaculate.Hes fed me took me clubbing and let me sleep there and never asked for a dime for a dog.

6 hours ago, mC HULL said:

I guess everyone saying i aint a clue doesn't know either 😆 😂 typical thl 

To give you a simple answer Frisco dogs.They produce certain traits good and bad.

It's about statistics and hybrid vigor.

Hybrid vigor is real.So alot of outcrosses.I was fortunate to grow up with Gamecocks bulldogs coonhounds hogdogs. The statistics were all the same.50 percent shit.47 percent average 3 percent above average (aces).So it takes alot of animals to get those that are above average.They are usually produced by an outcross.Ive got 5 working age terriers on my yard.All of them are average.None of them are above average.Nothing wrong with owning an average worker.They can't all be Aces.

 

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34 minutes ago, Rickshaw swami said:

Back about 04 I was at a dog show.I had gotten there early.The person who was supposed to pick Tom up from airport didn't show.I was asked to hop in another man's truck and pick Tom up.While driving this man's truck I got a chew of tobacco as I always do.Not thinking it wasn't my truck and I didn't have a spit bottle.I quickly found a McDonald's cup and started spitting in it.Picked up Tom.We had a good day.Treadmill races. Hang time competition.I was driving home that night when my cell phone rang.The man who owned the truck had drank from the cup while driving Tom back to the airport.When he realized he was drinking my baccy spit he puked all in the truck lol.If I seen Tom after that he would always ask if I still spit in cups lol.

Last time I was on his yard was 2010. 2 people full time picking up shit and taking care of dogs.He offered me a pup.I believe from rusty to cherry but could be wrong.I had too many terriers and didn't take the pup.The place is immaculate.Hes fed me took me clubbing and let me sleep there and never asked for a dime for a dog.

To give you a simple answer Frisco dogs.They produce certain traits good and bad.

It's about statistics and hybrid vigor.

Hybrid vigor is real.So alot of outcrosses.I was fortunate to grow up with Gamecocks bulldogs coonhounds hogdogs. The statistics were all the same.50 percent shit.47 percent average 3 percent above average (aces).So it takes alot of animals to get those that are above average.They are usually produced by an outcross.Ive got 5 working age terriers on my yard.All of them are average.None of them are above average.Nothing wrong with owning an average worker.They can't all be Aces.

 

Cracking post so would you say the best come from crossing  2 inbred lines together ? I like your percentages its similar to what ive seen 

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4 hours ago, mC HULL said:

Cracking post so would you say the best come from crossing  2 inbred lines together ? I like your percentages its similar to what ive seen 

Thanks, yes generally speaking 2 families known for different traits.

Apbt/hound for hogdog grit,nose

Hatch/grey gamecock gameness,cutting ability 

Bull/grey lol I couldn't resist.

 

 

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On 07/03/2026 at 19:19, Blackmag said:

100%walt totally agree I remember early 90s I had a Greyhound bitch that was a good bitch on fox hated them with a passion and I took her out regular lamping and digging she took enough I considered breeding of her all the serious lads with pits knocked me back they weren't interested in any way the dogs as you rightly describe I had my choice of many but I didn't bother in the end 

Pity you didn't no mchull back in the day word on the street he has a saluki that would do hard time in the pit 

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10 hours ago, gunter said:

Pity you didn't no mchull back in the day word on the street he has a saluki that would do hard time in the pit 

I wanted something proper back then when I was young and keen nothing mc had could cope with the work load 😂

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